Indesit widxl 126s washer/dryer not drying as good as it was

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  • #78822
    Robertus P
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    Hello uk whitegoods
    I am a Gas Safe Engineer, so I am to some extent accustomed to taking appliances apart and finding faults.
    I have had the machine for over 3 years
    My better half has noticed that it hasn’t been drying so well.
    Recently I had to clean out the pump, found 20p and 1cent coins and a 1 amp fuse blocking the impellor blades. But that didn’t make the drying better.
    I have taken the lid off and checked the dryer element (45ohms resistance and 240V when energized implies 1.28KW sounds good) and the fan also works.
    Is there an outlet lint filter on this machine that may be blocked and could possibly just need cleaning or replacing? I can’t seem to find anywhere where it could be.
    Thanks for any help forthcoming
    Best regards

    #407030
    iadom
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    Re: Indesit widxl 126s washer/dryer not drying as good as it

    Sadly not the best appliance on the market, like most washer dryers it suffers from blocked condensors.

    Very difficult to access and clean, the condenser chamber is located under the dryer assembly and connects to the side of the outer drum.

    #407031
    Robertus P
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    Re: Indesit widxl 126s washer/dryer not drying as good as it

    Thanks for your reply iadom
    I assume the best way to access it is to remove the whole dryer (fan, element and tube) assembly and get to it from above?
    Apart from some large cable ties, would i need replacement washers etc? Any dangers you can foresee?
    I was a bit dumb before, looking for an air outlet 😳 🙂

    #407032
    iadom
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    Re: Indesit widxl 126s washer/dryer not drying as good as it

    If it is badly blocked then you may need to release it from the side of the outer drum as well as removing the dryer assembly, access from the back for that. No replacement seals required AFAIK.
    The only real dangers are from the razor sharp edges of the cabinet. 🙁

    #407033
    Robertus P
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    Re: Indesit widxl 126s washer/dryer not drying as good as it

    Many thanks again iadom,
    I managed to clear out the condenser. The nut and bolt accessed through back panel just kept spinning so couldn’t get it off, had to use a coathanger and a long flexible grabbing tool i had, but got a lot of stuff out.
    After reassembly, the fan is not switching on. the resistance is 60 Ohms (4A 960W it seems ok)and there is 240V to it. The fan wheel seems to turn around ok, so is not jammed. I can manually start the fan by turning the spindle on the top of the motor but I think the fan motor needs replacing.
    I found a fan motor for £71.25 (espares), but I can’t seem to get the old one off. Do i need to take the assembly apart? I think so, but will wait for delivery before trying this.
    Also I noticed that the element is on but, without the fan working, the assembly is getting very hot. There seeems to be a thermistor on the assembly which i suspect is faulty, because the element should surely be switched of if the fan doesn’t work, but I didn’t want to test this for too long.
    Is there a part number for the thermistor?
    I completely understand if this is TL:DR, and thanks again for your help so far
    Best regards

    #407034
    iadom
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    Re: Indesit widxl 126s washer/dryer not drying as good as it

    The dryer fan does not run as soon as the dryer sequence is started, kicks in after about 45 to 60 seconds. Fan motor failure not very common TBH, motor resistance should be around 45?.

    The thermistor controls the temperature but it does not stop an overheat situation, the heating element has an in built cut out that will not reset if it gets to hot.

    Have you checked that there is a good circuit to and from the fan motor?

    The fact the fan worked before suggests a wiring break somewhere TBH.

    #407035
    Robertus P
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    Re: Indesit widxl 126s washer/dryer not drying as good as it

    Not sure what you mean by “good circuit”, i am getting 240V across the fan motor terminals almost immediately after switching on the drying cotton program. The fan does not want to start until i manually turn the spindle with the corner of a screwdriver.
    Good info though 😀

    #407036
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Indesit widxl 126s washer/dryer not drying as good as it

    By good circuit I meant phase to neutral. 😉

    Will it run normally once you turn it manually?

    As already mentioned, motor failure very rare and if it was running as you say before then it still points to something you have done. The fan should spin very freely, sometimes the fan can come loose on the shaft and bind against the dryer housing as well.

    Give the wires a good tug, sometimes the wire can break inside whilst the insulation is still intact.

    #407037
    Robertus P
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    Re: Indesit widxl 126s washer/dryer not drying as good as it

    I tested continuity of the cables anyway and they are good.
    The fan blades dont spin “very” freely, hardly make a complete turn. I dont think they touch the fan housing at all, although there is play up and down of about 1.5mm. Might be the bearings.

    Is the fan wheel bolted to the motor? therefore disassembly of assembly needed?
    Are you sure 45 Ohms? (makes it a 1.28KW fan :eeek:

    #407038
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Indesit widxl 126s washer/dryer not drying as good as it

    Robertus P wrote:

    Are you sure 45 Ohms? (makes it a 1.28KW fan :eeek:

    The specs for a Hotpoint WD which uses the exact same fan motor 😉

    Colours P = Polar, G = Graphite, T = Sandstone, A = Aluminium
    Country of Origin Great Britain
    Electrical Supply 230 Volts AC @ 50Hz Fuse 13amp
    Energy Energy Class: B
    Washing Performance Class: A @ 40°C
    Energy Consumption 1.02 kWh / Cycle @ 60°C Cotton
    Water Consumption 55 litres @ 60°C Cotton
    Wash Load 6 kg Cottons
    Washing & Drying Load 5.0 kg Cottons
    Spin Speed 1400 rpm maximum
    Control PCB 220/230Volt 50/60Hz Type Merloni EVO 2
    Wash Heater 1800 Watts @ 230 volts Resistance 30 ? approx.
    Dryer Heater 1200 Watts @ 230 volts Resistance 43 ? approx.
    Thermistor NTC – Wash Resistance: 20 K? @ 20°C
    Thermistor NTC – Dryer Resistance: 26 K? @ 20°C
    Water Supply Hot & Cold Valves – Coil Resistance 3.8 K?
    Max Pressure = 1 Mpa (10bar)
    Minimum Pressure = 0.05 Mpa (0.5bar)
    Motor – Wash 3 Phase 230V 50Hz AC
    Motor – Dryer Fan 230 Volt 50 Hz Resistance approx. 45 ?

    Pump 2 Pole Synchronous
    220 / 240 Volt 25 Watt, Resistance = 165 ?
    Maximum Head 1.4 metres
    Flow rate @ 0.9 metres / 30 Litres per minute
    Door Lock P.T.C. Bimetallic – Time Delay approximately 2 minutes
    Torque Settings Outer Drum = 8Nm
    Upper Balance Weight = 18 Nm
    Lower Balance Weight = 24 Nm
    Heater Box to Drum = 12Nm
    Heater Box Top to Bottom = 8Nm.

    The fan is held onto the shaft by a nut that tightens the fan onto the shaft, it should be very free spinning. Sometimes the fan does drop down on the shaft, a gentle tap on the end of the fan can move it back into place.

    You have to remove and split the housing to change the fan motor but I would try and move the fan first.

    #407039
    Robertus P
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    Re: Indesit widxl 126s washer/dryer not drying as good as it

    I took the assembly apart to check for fluff n stuff within the fan housing, but it is clean.
    I took the fan blade off and the spindle is not freely spinning.
    So that and the high resistance (60 ohms) suggest a new motor needed.
    But now the machine won’t switch on for some reason. All i did with the main pcb was to disconnect the dryer connector, test for continuity and reconnect. I have 240v into the machine.
    This is turning into a bit of a nightmare 😉

    Edit; Panic over, the on-switch suddenly decided to work.
    The motor is definitely getting stuck when idle, without the fan blade attached. so it is new motor time. Can i get the part from ukwhitegoods? I couldn’t find it in the spares section.

    #407040
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Indesit widxl 126s washer/dryer not drying as good as it

    Not in the shop, possibly due to the fact they are rarely used. May be that running with blocked condenser has caused motor to overheat but I have only fitted one or two motors to these in over ten years.

    A touch of WD40 on the bearings may free it off but long term a new motor may be the best option.

    Part number is C00098711, if you drop an e mail to spares@ukwhitegoods.co.uk then you should get a reply fairly quickly regarding cost etc. The list price is actually £65 to give you some idea.

    #407041
    Robertus P
    Participant

    Re: Indesit widxl 126s washer/dryer not drying as good as it

    Done
    Thank you again iadom for all your help.
    I wish you and yours a happy, healthy and prosperous 2014
    Very Best regards
    Rob

    #407042
    Robertus P
    Participant

    Re: Indesit widxl 126s washer/dryer not drying as good as it

    Me again, the shop no longer stocks the fan motor, i haven’t ordered one yet.
    I tried a program without the dryer and am now getting an error code, 4 flashing green lights plus rapidly flashing red door lock light. Looking at the fault codes it seems i have

    fault 15-Dryer element relay on board not working
    Check wiring
    Check electronic controller

    I have good earth
    The problem occurs too on rinse and spin programs within around 5 seconds of starting, but fill program works ok.
    Have i knackered the board too?
    Do i need to look at your list of recommended new washer/dryers? 😉

    #407043
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Indesit widxl 126s washer/dryer not drying as good as it

    If you do look at the list you will see that we don’t actually recommend any washer dryers. 😉

    The only one that is half decent is a Miele, the rest are very average to poor. :rolls:

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