A return of the BAD old days

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  • #79760
    kladave
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    Are we going back down the road of very poor quality pattern spares that I had encountered in the 70/80s,If memory serves me right the Chinese had not got a foot hold in the spares market then but they sure are making up for lost time now!
    I have been the subject this week of fan oven elements that develop earth faults once hot,and I have even tried different suppliers and different elements.
    😡

    #410467
    spimps
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    Re: A return of the BAD old days

    Problem possibly due to dampness, if elements are open to the atmosphere and stored in that way they absorb moisture which is mostly the cause of that problem.
    I have in the past had these faults and taken elements back to workshop and run without earth for 20 minutes and the earth fault disappears as the elements dry out, even if they are delivered sealed you don’t know where they were sealed in the bag, perhaps already with moisture in, factory, distributors wholesalers if it comes in a pattern companies own bag or box it’s likely they were delivered to them loose and then packaged.
    If you don’t fancy connecting up without earth stick them in your oven for 30 minutes and see if it reduces the earth reading.

    #410468
    Martin
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    Re: A return of the BAD old days

    I wonder if someone could ask the question of Connect, Masterpart AND Qualtex at the White Goods Meeting……….. “where the hell do you source these lousy elements?” Have a can of bullshit spray handy for their respective replies! 😉

    #410469
    spimps
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    Re: A return of the BAD old days

    Now who is this forums sponsor ❓ 😯

    #410470
    Simon46
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    Re: A return of the BAD old days

    I fitted a genuine hotpoint element (ele006 shape) that was oc after a month. Thats a first for me.
    S.

    #410471
    Lawrence
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    Re: A return of the BAD old days

    Martin wrote:I wonder if someone could ask the question of Connect, Masterpart AND Qualtex at the White Goods Meeting……….. “where the hell do you source these lousy elements?” Have a can of bullshit spray handy for their respective replies! 😉

    Come and ask them yourself Martin ,it will be nice to see you

    #410472
    MARIO
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    Re: A return of the BAD old days

    Have fitted 3 miele pattern washing machine elements in the same machine in last 5 months. 2 in last 6 weeks from connect plus just ordered hotpolnt pattern belt 1194 and its too big but marked1194 so think that tells a story

    #410473
    grooster
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    Re: A return of the BAD old days

    Fitted a genuine Beko fan element yesterday. Got a call 2 hours later to say it had gone bang. So its not just the pattern stuff that failing. I have had major problems with Whirlpool and Bosch pattern elements over the past year though.

    #410474
    SAMURI
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    Re: A return of the BAD old days

    I have had no problems with Connect pattern elements.

    Sometimes elements can absorb moisture but work fine if you dry them out.

    I had one recently that needed Drying out but was OK after.

    With all the wet weather they can get damp stored on the van.

    Bob

    #410475
    Martin
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    Re: A return of the BAD old days

    SAMURI wrote:I have had no problems with Connect pattern elements

    You will soon then, oh yes! 🙁

    #410476
    Andy jones
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    Re: A return of the BAD old days

    Worst elements I have for failing are the Electrolux wide bracket one. I only fit genuine but don’t last long. Got one customer that’s had 4 in 18 months. Have changed stat and fan motor as well but still don’t last

    #410477
    reaper
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    Re: A return of the BAD old days

    2 faulty Bosch type ‘horseshoe’ elements today sourced from Homecare.Ordered a genuine one today but theyre not much better.

    #410478
    Andy jones
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    Re: A return of the BAD old days

    Forgot about those rubbish

    #410479
    gandh1
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    Re: A return of the BAD old days

    been lucky so far. but have noticed recently hotpoint beko and smeg OEM elements have different suppliers to there usual respective ones. always worth using the EGO or irca patterns if they are available. Trialling Qtx’s new EGO pattern brittania elements at the mo to see how they fair, would have been a money spinner but bit late in the day as since GDHA have bagged them all of a sudden britannia spares are 2/3rds the price they used to be lol.

    #410480
    DDA
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    Re: A return of the BAD old days

    Andy jones wrote:Worst elements I have for failing are the Electrolux wide bracket one. I only fit genuine but don’t last long. Got one customer that’s had 4 in 18 months. Have changed stat and fan motor as well but still don’t last

    The original motors seem slow and grease build up / age seems to slow them further causing the elements to overheat and become damaged.

    I have found that fitting new motor with the element sorts this issue . I have also adapted a Hotpoint (mtr8001) by creating legs on the motor with nuts and bolts. this reduce costs for the customer, this also increase the original fan speed so will last longer before the motor slowing causes any issues.

    i have had no problems to date with this method. Always important to check that the motor will fit correctly and safely.

    Also used this method on other makes including baumatic.

    alo use the same methord in

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