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Hi all,
Just a question for you all; would you replace an oven ring element with a higher rated one, ie 1600W replaced with a 1850W?
I have my thoughts, I just wanted to get your views on it.
Look forward to your replies.
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The real only difference is that they will have shorter cycling and it’ll heat up a bit faster
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Martin wrote:…….and burn the cakes more effectively.
It’s not the element that burns cakes..It’s the thermostat. if the thermostat works then the element turns off at the same temperature.
Elements dont control the temperature it just make the heat.
Bryan
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You learn something new every day. So if it glows hotter and the fan isn’t designed to distribute the extra heat displacement the thermostat will prevent those cakes from burning anyway, is that how it goes?
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But the stat would of reached temp sooner so cut out as it would, just sooner that’s all.Remember the oven should already be pre heated so it would just be a case of the stat cycling it’s hardly going to make much of a noticeable difference if any at all.
Or is the original question in regards to the technical side of things? ie,to the current it pulls?Phil
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It is a technical aspect, due to the effect it would have on the appliance and the installation.
It would cause the element to draw more current to achieve the same heat level, albeit quicker, then the stat would cut off at the pre-set temp.
What I want to know is how many of you would be happy fitting a higher than spec. rated element and do you feel it is safe?
Thanks all.
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Personally I wouldn’t, would the wiring be man enough for the extra current ?
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Chris Blatch wrote:What I want to know is how many of you would be happy fitting a higher than spec. rated element and do you feel it is safe?.
No way would I be idiot enough to fit the incorrectly rated element. Many of the later electronic controlled ovens have relay control designed to operate within the limitations to which they were designed. Whopping in an element with a 15{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}+ higher wattage is just asking for trouble.
Bigger element, faster heating be buggered. Fit the right part for the right job is the rule of thumb in this trade, or so I was taught anyway.
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I wouldn’t put in a higher rated element, I would fit a lower rated element if I had no choice ie Christmas eve and unable to locate correct parts.
As Martin says it could take out the relay on the timer or a pcb, might only draw an extra amp or two but how close they push the tolerances it could be enough to push it over the edge.Phil
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I wouldn’t be so worried about burning the cakes, more about burning the house down, due to overloading the oven’s internal circuitry. Added to that the possibility of reduced lifespan of the element due to inadequate air flow.
Bear in mind, also, that any elements rated at 230V are already operating at 9{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} above rated power if connected to a 240V supply, as typically found in the UK.
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So are we saying that looking at say a Circa Therm Oven Element rated at 1800w that the wiring supplying the current to that element is of a different gauge to say the same sort of oven with a 2000w element fitted ??
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the correct advice is no, if it was a little higher watts rating the thermal insulation should be fine as the thermostat will cut out at the correct temperature no problem
if its a 13amp plug in type single oven forget it, the reason being is its probably or highly likely it will not blow the fuse as it will creep above the 13 amps, the fuse will not blow and next you have hot wires and im sure you know whats coming next :eeek:
if its hard wired direct back to the consumer unit with dedicated wiring its possible
watts divided by voltage will give you the max load capacity of the oven thats with all elements added that can be switched on together, so the load can not exceed the conductor wiring, even after saying that id say be careful the internal wiring may only have a slight tolerance say +15, fit a smaller wattage element even if you have to drill a few small holes to mend it in place, say a none genuine lower wattage element theirs plenty in the market i keep a big bag of qualtex elements at the ready just in case im under pressure to complete
its just not worth the risk
simon
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Nearly every cooker has the same gauge wiring feeding the elements, and its not uncommon to find 1800/2000/2400w elements being fed by such wiring. The build quality of a lot of cookers in the electrical department leaves a lot to be desired and I wonder about some of the cheap makes which seem to be using flimsy Terminal Blocks, often not you have a spur via a cooker switch with 8mm Cable from the wall spur, the conductors are too large for the Terminal blocks to accommodate this gauge conductor and it seems that the terminal blocks, oven selector switch gear is only just man enough to pass the regs for import. Therefore I agree with the above that caution must be used in extending anything in the amps and watts department as there does not seem to be any significant tolerance to exceed the specs.
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