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This is a good reason why we should have some sort of regulatory body in this industry , I know this is a topic that has been mentioned before but if there were some standard we had to work to then this couldn’t happen;
A couple of years ago I had to put a trainee engineer on a final written warning before I could sack him , he was found to be a liar , a poor and dangerous engineer and he hid from me the fact that he had no sense of smell so he couldn’t even smell a gas leak ,
After leaving me he went to work with a friend of his doing appliance repairs and went around telling everyone he was my senior engineer and that he helped train the rest of my engineers , him and his mate soon parted company after he almost put his mate out of business ,
He then went on to work for Siemens , didn’t last long there and went to work for British gas , we do contract work for BG and were called back on his recalls,
He has since parted company with British Gas and has started up on his own telling people that once again he was the top engineer at all his previous companies , this man shouldn’t be allowed to work as an engineer , he is in my opinion a danger to the the public, the trouble is he tells a good lie and makes people believe him as he believes it all himself , there is no way of stopping anyone picking up a screw driver and calling themself an engineer , there should be something we can do about cowboy engineers … Rant overRe: Dangerous engineers , is there nothing we can do about t
Only option is a call to trading standards but unless he is ripping people off or doing dangerous repairs they won’t be interested. It’s very frustrating though
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So he was Corgi/Gas Safe registered then?
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Back in my hotpoint days I was working with trading standards putting faults on machines, these rogues where called out and their level of incompetence was unbelievable but was almost impossible to bring any action. Only 1 ended up in court and if memory serves me right he didn’t bother to turn up
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iadom wrote:So he was Corgi/Gas Safe registered then?
Now there is one BIG problem…
Whilst re qualification for my gas safe last week there was an self employed engineer who was also qualified to work on commercial (cough). He had failed re assessment 3 times and could not carry out a basic drop test. He was advised that he needed to start his basic training again as he was not competent or safe to work.. But they had NO way to remove his gas safe registration and NO authority to do so.
So…. The assessment centres who asses cant do anything if you already have it until it expires.
Bryan
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iadom wrote:So he was Corgi/Gas Safe registered then?
No he isn’t corgi / gas safe , however pushing a built in cooker back and causing a gas leak that he can’t smell is dangerous
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That’s common sense ,and you can’t regulate common sense.
I hear what you are saying but regulation is the thin end of a very big wedge.
Think about how much admin,time off to attend courses/college you would incur,and then factor in the amount of engineers that are not like the guy you are talking about who would say im off.
Not because they are scared of regulation but because the return on the investment of ,money,energy,time etc ,makes it non viable to continue in the industry.Re: Dangerous engineers , is there nothing we can do about t
I would like to see some kind of regulation. Time and investment in these things is always a pain but if it was to see off the annoying niggly people who are nothing but a pain and go around bad mouthing other local companies and carrying out shoddy repair work and fitting second hand parts then surely this would be a good thing long term.
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I do see what you mean. It wouldn’t see them off quickly is the problem.
It would price out the good guys who make the investment to be undercut by the cowboys and customers don’t care who does it as long as it’s done.
Work providers will love it but would not increase their rates any where near enough to cover additional expense.
Low end repairs would truly be a thing of the past and hence more waste.
Self regulation is key. That’s where WTA and DASA come in.
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nigegt wrote:Self regulation is key. That’s where WTA and DASA come in.
I’m sure the cowboys and incompetents of this trade would have little or no obligation towards “self regulation” in pursuance of their daily activities. Besides pledging the oath of allegiance to a trade association does little or nothing in warding off the inept.Cowboys rarely survive long though many learn by the trail of past mistakes. Given Simon’s example of the employee from hell going on to work for both Siemens and BG leaves us wondering if he ever learnt from his cock-ups? Probably not, who knows?
I Googled up and found that someone with no sense of smell suffers from ‘congenital anosmia’. I seriously doubt any potential employee who ever be asked if he or she is a sufferer as a prerequisite to getting a job. In my day you only had to pass the colour blindness test in order to do this type of work and I doubt even that is a requirement these days.
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