Lest We Forget…

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  • #8455
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    I know where you’re coming from with DASA Sean, but let’s not get away from some pertinent facts…

    DASA was aided by Kev and I to setup the MFI Network, well we did it actually.

    Kevin got fucked over doing that.

    Dave and I did Orbit for them, on time.

    I did the forums for them FREE to bail them out the shit.

    I still have advertising for DASA on the site for which anyone else would be paying, just like the forums.

    Plus hell knows what else we’ve done for them.

    Now, purely in cost alon the advertising and forums would have cost anyone else about three grand over the past year. So to say that UKW hasn’t done anything, or given anything to DASA is just utter shit.

    K.

    #128722
    admin
    Keymaster

    Re: Lest We Forget…

    Don’t forget the logo, all though Walter Pollock would like to!

    what else have we done…let me think…..errr

    chatted in public about dasa, predicted the report they paid £3000 for, exposed some Dasa members as liars, exposed their inability to tell the truth(all who except the minutes of the last council meeting at the forth coming meeting), exposed the limatations of the PRESS officer. Fucking hell, we done more than they have :):)

    Kevin

    #128723
    Dave_Conway
    Participant

    Re: Lest We Forget…

    kheath wrote:although Walter Pollock would like to!

    Have they got married at last ? :rotl:

    #128724
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    They have been for a while, but shush, it’s a big secret! :rotfl:

    K.

    #128725
    Del
    Moderator

    Re: Lest We Forget…

    Hey guy’s c’mon this is sean your talkin’ too here not only do I look like an Elephant but I have got the same memory as one too.
    When you were all still in DASA and thought that it was possoible with some radical strategies to start to save it, who was at your side every step of the way.

    And lets be totally honest here, if Mark and Jason had not let Kev down so badly we would be now be looking at a completely different dasa today as we then had the power and momentum to change it for the better.

    I only Discovered the real story just after last christmas when you decided to let me in on the full story.

    Their lack of support for a fellow councillor was disgusting and they should have done a dam site more than they did. When I knew the full score it was my full intention to make a serious issue of it at council and seek for some reparation to be made to him.

    It was only at Kev’s direct request due to legal constraints that I did not persue this.

    You can now see what I mean when I say that I feel like I am going into the Lions den every time I suggest at either UKW OR DASA working with the other.

    I believe that this is a trade, I believe that the engineers we send out on job’s are every bit as skilled as an Electrician, Carpenter, Plumber, Brickie etc. It is actually my belief that in a lot of cases that we are more skilled as we have to work on such a wide range of products and technologies.

    Yet the payments we recieve in no way reflect this. So the only way to begin to do something about it is to start with a trade association. and get it to push the case for it’s members to be recognised as Tradesmen.

    I know that there is a mountain to climb I also realise that there are some dinosuars as passengers on the only vehicle that can help us achieve this aim. But if it dies we will not be able to resurect it within the forseeable future.

    UKW states time and time again that it has no intention of being a trade association. So who is there left to work with.

    We need to encourage more people to join and get involved and we may find a few good people with some commitment to help us to move things along and improve things.

    The other thing is that you need to read my post’s a little more clearly I always give credit to the efforts and ideas you have given to dasa in the past.

    If we do nothing then we will end up with even bigger tosspots in charge of dasa with no one within it’s organisation to challenge or question them.

    Remember they say that evil only exists because good people stand by and do nothing. It would appear that the same fate may await dasa.

    Sean

    #128726
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: Lest We Forget…

    But Sean, what do we do with it?

    How much do we have to do for them before they actually stand on their own two feet?

    Why should I dedicate my time and my money towards protecting DASA when I can do a lot more in many other ways with the freedom allowed through UKW?

    Have we not done enough already, certainly far more than any of the associate members that are lingering around?

    And still, after all this time, the simple questions of “what is DASA and where is it going, what is its goals?” cannot be answered.

    K.

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