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February 7, 2016 at 8:11 pm #87526
Jumty
ParticipantThe machine has once again gone U/S after the reset.
The machine fills stops and then drains.
Going through the test menu all the water valves are working. However, at the next stage of the test programme, the machine clicks (heating element?) waits around twenty seconds clicks again and then drains.
We are giving the machine one last chance to redeem itself. So, are there any suggestions as to a possible fault?
February 8, 2016 at 10:32 pm #435152eenie
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Jumpty
You say clicks waits 20s then clicks then stops.
Is the water level OK from the test menu ? In our ise w288 the heater wire goes through the level/pressure sensor. This appeared to be a mechanical safety switch to ensure there was water in the drum beforr allowing current to the heater itself. Might be something similar in yours to check. You can hear a very faint click as the relay activates when the water fills up. The main level sensing is done on the control panel.
February 8, 2016 at 10:56 pm #435153melec
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Do not know anything about an ISE machine but sounds like it is going into emergency mode??
Could be caused by aquastop ? Does it have one ? I.e water leaking into base ? Time out on filling ? Too slow or too much or little
If all present and correct Pressure switch should be verifiedFebruary 9, 2016 at 9:18 am #435154Jumty
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On the test programme the machine fills with water, there is the the click from the thermostat another click and then the machine aborts the test and goes straight to drain.
The machine has a new MCU. Is it possible that the motor has damaged the new unit? I read on this website that this is a remote possibility in the case of Bosch machines.
February 9, 2016 at 11:14 am #435155kwatt
KeymasterRe: ISE 1606 fault part 2
I think Melec is correct I also would think that sounds as if it was the anti-flood that’s being tripped.
Until whatever is causing that is resolved, the machine won’t do squat other than enter into an emergency drain program. No way to get out it or abort it until the issue causing that is sorted.
The water level is detected by a pressure sensor and, on the older 1606 there’s an analogue safety pressure switch as well. Signals from those are sent to the MCU which in turn decides what to do with that information.
K.
February 9, 2016 at 11:55 am #435156Jumty
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More information.
This is definitely an intermittent fault. This morning I tried the machine on the drain programme. Everything worked as it should, except at the end when the machine “clicked” a couple of times and the “END” display flashed on and off simultaneously.
I put the machine onto a full programme to see what happened and the machine worked correctly.
February 9, 2016 at 12:49 pm #435157melec
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Flood water could have evaporated or leaked out somewhere
you need to eliminate that possibility
look for signs on base plate etcFebruary 26, 2016 at 12:10 pm #435158Jumty
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The machine started working perfectly after my last post but the fault has returned. I have checked the interior of the casing for signs of leaks and there are none.
So it looks like a a fault in either the water level sensor (red) or the pressure detector (black).
Any suggestions for tests I might undertake?
February 29, 2016 at 10:57 am #435159Jumty
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More information.
The machine will now go into the test programme. The water inlet test works fine but when the element test begins you can hear the water warming up for a few seconds then there is a click and the machine goes straight to drain.
March 1, 2016 at 8:19 pm #435160melec
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Sounds like you solved it jumpty?
Meggar the element ? Con check it also to see what is going on ??
Dont know about ISE stuff but Siemens and Bosch Washing Mc heating element faults throw up just these kind of symptomsMarch 5, 2016 at 2:36 pm #435161Jumty
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I have taken the element out. It looks fine; there’s a bit of calcium build up; a multi-meter test shows continuity and resistance within specification.
So it doesn’t look like the element is the problem.
The pressure switch is working fine. If you put water into the drum when the door is open the drain pump kicks-in immediately.
Is it possible that the machine has fritzed the MCU (again)?
March 5, 2016 at 7:03 pm #435162Martin
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Where are all the ISE experts when you need them eh Jumpty?
March 5, 2016 at 7:19 pm #435163bazza500
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melec wrote:Meggar the element
Have you tried this?
March 5, 2016 at 7:31 pm #435164admin
KeymasterRe: ISE 1606 fault part 2
Where are all the ISE experts when you need them eh Jumpty?
If I remember correctly Martin.. Wasn’t it you who beta tested one of the ISE’s ?
And so many have given so many answers which are guess’s as we haven’t seen it or tested anything and can only assume that the testing is carried out correctly and the test program has been run correctly.
We aren’t all mind readers and all can’t teleport visions.
Bryan
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