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Hotpoint 9605 top loader has a no spin problem. I think the problem lies with the clutch as when the machine is set to spin and the lid switch wedged the drum can be held still with one finger. If let go and empty, drum spins fine – quite smooth in fact. The solenoid releases the drum and the assembly turns freely and after stalling the drum for a couple of minutes, the clutch drum on the bottom of the motor was hot; methinks the clutch is slipping. It has been a long time since I’ve done one of these machines so a little help to jog the memory would be appreciated. The only concern with fitting a new clutch unit (available still from Qualtex!) was the groove worn in the drum as this is obsolete. Will the groove matter too much? Customer is determined to fix it whatever……. :eeek:
Advice please!!
Cheers,
Steve.
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From memory (a long time since I’ve seen one ) try roughing up the shoes to eliminate slip,if it then works throw in a set of shoes and you are away
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as the clutch shoes wear they get smaller and lose weight so don’t work as well
as Lawrence says rough it up a bit but change it if it works
while your there check the pump for leaks as these used to go constantly after the motor change on model 1504 . if these go they leak on the motor and destroy it
Dave
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The groove worn in the drum ❓
Do you mean the inside of the clutch pulley? If so then that is never a problem, if the tips of the clutch shoes are pointed they are well past their use by date.
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If it tries to agitate when you hold the drum its the spring in the gearbox.
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Can’t see it being a problem. Would love to get a few call on those things again
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iadom wrote:
the tips of the clutch shoes are pointed they are well past their use by date.
Yep, actually they were pointed – noticed that – so new clutch it is then. Thanks for that Jim.
Andy jones wrote:Would love to get a few call on those things again
Nah not me….. never really got to see many of them TBH. Too young….. 😛
Cheers,
Steve.
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they got to the best design on model 1504 before date code 02
on earlier models.
motor was 4 pole not 2 so motor was running at half the speed.
pump had 4 blades (not 2 ) and water seal and bearing seldom failed in fact it lasted so long the pump valve failed first causing it to bounce causing water to come out in spurts.
there was also a needle roller bearing on a strut on the bottom of the gearbox. to support the pull of the belt. later machines get oil leaks as the lower box bearing wear because its not there
the clutch shoes are like car brake shoes, an ali frame with a friction material bonded to itDave
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Whilst the 1504 with the four pole motor was better than later two pole motor machines it was still not as good as the earlier 1502 with the Controls Company timer.
The flyback stat and the heater fixing stud that broke away where all weak points on the 1504. They did use the Controls Company timer on the very first 1504’s but changed it to a Mallory or Crouzet, these where not as reliable by a long margin.
IMHO of course. 🙂
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@ iadom
was it the 1502 where the knob glowed red when it was on
can see what you mean about the timers changed a few but it was the mechanics that went down the tubes in the 1504
its a shame the whole world has changed. it used to be buy our product its “Quality” now its buy our product its “Cheap”
Dave
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The red glowing ring around the knob was on 1501 it looked good but was removed on the 1502. On the earlier 1500 there was a 15watt bulb behind the facia that lit up behind a square window.
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talking “old” what was the one that you had to unscrew the knob cover and use a coin to reset the dial? was it 1600? long time ago.
wilf
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Ah I see nostalgia has broken out again. 😆
Another tip Steve in assessing the state of the drum bearings and its ability to spin , and before attempting to decide whether fitting clutch shoes is a cure all. Release the brake solenoid spring then rotate the drum by hand in the spin direction. Then engage the brake lever in order to stop the drum. The drum should rebound back an inch or three depending on how fast you rotated the drum. If you don’t witness any rebound then the drum shaft/drum support has issues and new clutch shoes won’t secure a lasting fix.
Remember to reattach that brake arm return spring! 8)
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