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August 31, 2016 at 12:45 pm #89183
1totalshambles
ParticipantThis an interesting Bosch disaster reference a w/dryer model WVTI3240GB/01. If you own one watch out because I`ve 2 of the blighters do the following in 3 months.
The scene is set as follows: symptom, a very slight whiff of burning in the air, not smoke, not a haze just a barely noticable rubber smell in the air as reported and this was earlier this year 2016. I never smelt anything and tested it on spin with a load and the drum revolved fine no noise, no warped drum, no damage to the door seal other than the usual tear at 12o/clock which is pretty common on these machines, this was replaced and the old seal inspected- no friction burns. Machine pulled out, motor, belt, everything looked fine; zippo wrong with it! We now jump to late August 2016 and find that the pump has jammed but jammed by a piece of grey rubber door, this was removed and the door seal checked over to find the flange, where the seal disappears between the tank and the front of the drum, had a strip cut off!. Now this is becoming interesting. The drum revolved fine, the drum made no noises on spin under load, there was no up and down drum movement paddle to paddle so presumably something had just got caught as the drum went into fast spin and cut this slither off. Thought I`d NOT order another expensive door seal but wait a week since to all and tense and purposes everything worked and checked out just fine. Today, finally the cursed Bosch shows its true colours…….all 3 drum spider arms rotted and fractured. How why was this missed? Simple, the original; fracture was right at the top near the hub at the thickest part, normally a spider breaks 8 inches below this area where it narrows down in X section allowing the drum the flex and go warped bicycle wheel mode which you can`t miss to see when the drum goes round and is usually accompanied with a right odd racket such as loud banging noise which was never ever heard…..does now though! Alas all is not well with the contraption, £200 quid part for a new drum and spider and the rest.
Just shows you how these machines can fail, not overly old either, and wasn`t cheap as you can imagine. Oh the wonders of aluminium alloy in water/low temperature washing and bacteria. Had a Miele do that too once but that was obvious but that was very old and it was years ago; that got scrapped too. Is nothing immune from this pestilence?
So if anyone else gets the same early symptoms watch out because fun and games is just as likely going to round the next corner.
There`s about as much chance of predicting this as the IMF has predicting next weeks financial forecast and getting it right because they get everything !00{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} wrongAugust 31, 2016 at 12:56 pm #440583iadom
ModeratorRe: The curious tale of a Bosch w/dryer
Or you could have simply directed members of the public to the many useful articles in the Help & Advice section at the top of the Home page such as THIS one. 😉
This is certainly not a Bosch specific problem.
August 31, 2016 at 1:21 pm #4405841totalshambles
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Never said it was specific to Bosch, I even mentioned Miele. As to `smelly washing machine` article this doesn`t mention where the spider can crack and that`s my point. Do pay attention dear boy.. :rolls:
August 31, 2016 at 2:08 pm #440585iadom
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Did you read the full article with the picture of a corroded spider, I did also say there are several useful articles that relate to low temperature wash programmes causing problems so I was paying attention. More to the point, I am not your ‘dear boy’ . 😕
August 31, 2016 at 3:32 pm #4405861totalshambles
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Iadom has been angered!
I pay homage to the great one. And I apologize, obviously no sense of humour.Yes I`ve read your wretched article and most of it is correct I even direct people verbally to read the sacred script.
And yes the Hotpoint spider is a poor example to photograph as most get much worse than that with bloody great holes eaten through them forming a skeleton of their former selves Mostly the only spider/bearing changes I do these days are Hotpoints WM ( as per your picture ) and WMA series because the parts can come separate, are affordable, easily obtainable and people like them fixed because they cannot bear to buy a 2016 piece of tosh which will fail in a few years. The only recent make that I`ve come across where bearings seem to last somewhat longer is, as odd as it sounds, Hoover and Candy as I don`t get much trouble with these things. But even with your optimistic approach you`d have to agree that Bosch are not what they once were and yes their dishwashers are really rubbish, you`d be better off with a ProAction or a Bush ( more or less the same machines ). For more info see http://www.awmronline.com for more gruesome home truthsAugust 31, 2016 at 7:05 pm #440587Martin
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I urge everyone to browse through Andy’s website, he so thoughtfully provided in the post above. If you thought this thread is packed with priceless information his website is the ‘War & Peace’ all things white goods. And if you live in the Reading area then for you it just gets better! 😉
August 31, 2016 at 8:07 pm #440588iadom
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The ‘wretched article’ and the picture is not mine, I had no input into that whatsoever. I will say though that the link to your web site is one of the best laughs I have had in a long while so you see I do have a proper sense of humour. 😆
September 1, 2016 at 5:35 am #4405891totalshambles
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I urge everyone to browse through Andy’s website, he so thoughtfully provided in the post above. If you thought this thread is packed with priceless information his website is the ‘War & Peace’ all things white goods. And if you live in the Reading area then for you it just gets better! 😉
Outrageous sarcastic comment… I`m shocked! So that`s No tea and biscuits for Martin.
No, really, thanks for your comments and yes that site is too long but the old micro business keeps the old git going until he finally has to give it all up circ next year. Cheers!September 1, 2016 at 4:35 pm #440590Martin
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1totalshambles wrote:Outrageous sarcastic comment… I`m shocked! So that`s No tea and biscuits for Martin.
I’m a tease aren’t I Andy. But that’s what we do locally, have friendly banter between us, exchange horror stories, whilst all the while poach each others customers. 😉
September 3, 2016 at 5:29 pm #4405911totalshambles
ParticipantBlimey! Not another one.
Regular readers of this esteemed site might recall a Bosch washer dryer with a fractured spider unit that was difficult, initially at least, to suss out. This post is about a 3 year old Neff built in w/dryer model V6320X0GB with drum bearing failure, depressing stuff at 3 years old you`d have to agree.The nitty grity is that although you can buy the rear bearings at around a rip off 40 quid a piece via Neff this particular failure I`m pretty sure is going to need a new spider….alas it only come`th with a new drum at £230..a snip! And what`s worse both I and said owner reckon the rear half tank might too be damaged by shrapneled bearings around the oil seal area- I do wish owners would stop using their pride and joy when they first know there`s a problem, crazy- rear half tank with factory fitted bearings £230, another snip. So we have 460 worth of parts plus £22 for a tank seal £482 plus labour on a 3 year old £750 machine.
I`ll let you draw your own conclusions least I get attacked, yet again, by other members on this site who have some strange fixation with the more something costs the better it`ll be…they are of course totally deluded but then they might be flogging the stuff so have to keep the old nonsense alive: no money in £200 machine sales.September 4, 2016 at 7:36 am #440592Martin
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Next year is it you’re retiring? A chance to finally put the toolbox away and rid yourself of the frustration of dealing with errant Bosch bearing issues. Time to relax, spend the morning cutting the lawn followed by a little light weeding before spending the afternoon reading the paper.
Happy days to come 🙂
September 5, 2016 at 8:12 pm #4405931totalshambles
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Happy days indeed. No I`m going sea fishing which is even more stressful when I retire, that and the library which maybe is even worse.
You know I don`t like being critical or certainly appearing nasty but all I can do is write in and mention what I bump in to, its a forum and that`s what forums are for and certainly not an old boy closed network, some of which are poor machines irrespective of the flashy badge name and at a high price. If your a retailer you need to know this because out of warranty Joe public might be expecting you to pick up the bill or part of it.
Andy`s website is in fact very good, actually locally it is the best site around and tells it like it is even if you don`t want to hear it; Andy doesn`t do happy clappy; it`s all his own work non copied and based on his own experience, what a lovely bloke he is to spend his time writing in to a whitegoods forum!
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