Mercury RC1090 weekday oven door seal

Re: Mercury RC1090 weekday oven door seal

Hi

Dave in the shop may be able to help spares@ukwhitegoods.co.uk don’t forget the model and serial number 😉

Don

Re: Mercury RC1090 weekday oven door seal

Bryan’s asking for £80+VAT for these, assuming you send in your old seal (presumably for recycling). Seems very steep to me, but then he may be the only person on the planet who is able to supply them!

Before I take the plunge, has anyone worked out whether it’s possible to recycle the old seals (perhaps by removing the metal corner clips and inserting them into a universal seal)?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/Cooker-Parts … seal&psc=1
This seal doesn’t look suitable, because the Mercury has a lip that goes around the outside of the oven that will require the seal to have a slight indent to slide onto the lip.

Re: Mercury RC1090 weekday oven door seal

r600a wrote:Hi Daniel

It is not just sourcing the profile to which I have done and the cost is expensive per metre when I only buy 20-30 metres compared to companies purchasing 500-2000 the price reduces. Then there is the time that it takes to physically make them as the cost of having them made in a factory is not viable. Then there is the customers who do not return the old metal clips which mean that the option to make them in a batch ends.
Then there is my time that I spend tracing parts and paying money out so that Mercury customers can keep their cooker.
I can show a few manufacturers who charge more for there bulk purchased seals.
If you can find a supplier then you have the option to purchase there. to which I have searched the UK for a supplier previously.

Have a look at this Miele on eBay item : 361835943532 £152
baumatic: 251592320327 £27
whirlpool : 481946818109 £42

But as you feel that its right for you then there will be no seal available to you.

Bryan

Hi Bryan,

I understand, but you can’t blame me for trying to find a cheaper alternative before paying £96 for an oven door seal…

If anyone has had any luck doing this themselves, please let me know.

Thanks,

Daniel

Re: Mercury RC1090 weekday oven door seal

kwatt wrote:This came up for conversation earlier Daniel.

In short, Bryan isn’t taking the proverbial.

If you want to berate anyone, then like me, berate Rangemaster who bough Mercury from Lincat then basically stuffed all the Mercury owners by dropping all support for what are very good and expensive cookers.

I bought one as well so, I know only too well how hacked off owners are as I am as well. Even more hacked as I recommended them as they are extremely good machines or at least they were, until Rangemaster bought the brand.

But what Rangemaster have done is just despicable in my opinion.

Oh and now they sell a “Mercury” that’s merely a rebadged Rangemaster at an inflated price and, people buy them thinking it’s better than a box standard Rangemaster, which it isn’t.

Which leaves the like of Bryan, myself and others scrabbling about trying to source and build stuff to keep them going and, that’s a lot of effort, time and money.

Meanwhile while we sell a fan element for what I think is a high price but, less than a £100, you have at least one supplier asking over £300 for the exact same part.

So believe me when I tell you, Bryan really isn’t taking the Mick here.

K.
Very harsh this as it was Lincat who stopped supplying Rangemaster, NOT Rangemaster who cut off the supply of parts !!!

Re: Mercury RC1090 weekday oven door seal

r600a wrote:

Very harsh this as it was Lincat who stopped supplying Rangemaster, NOT Rangemaster who cut off the supply of parts !!!

Not quite right as the sale terms was not done as cleanly as it could have been. If it was me doing the contract then I as the buyer would have put into it that all spares suppliers details would be included within the sale so both are to blame. lincat also didn’t keep the record of who they purchased the spares from after the sale also and Rangemaster didn’t really know how many of the original products where out there.

Ive spent hours on the phone to the original buyers and manufacturers and have been able to trace the majority of functional parts and hold them in stock…But at what point do you purchase volume ?.

Buy 1 item £50
Buy 30 items £45
Buy 100 £20

But then you end up with hundreds of parts tied up worth £1000’s and the turn over is very slow. The costs out weigh the eventual viability of obtaining the parts and keeping the parts.

I put a large £K’s into an order from the original manufacturer of the genuine elements so that I have the full set of every element in stock for the Mercury cookers.. That money was paid out three months ago and the elements only arrived last week.. If it was viable then Rangemaster could have had the elements made but the lifespan of the genuine elements are between 10 to 15 years how many would they have to purchase and then sit on the shelf going damp for the next 5 years.. It then makes it unviable to purchase a volume to get prices low to mass produce.
It will take me a while to get my money back and its a punt that hopefully I won’t lose any going damp.

Once parts become less available for any product the costs go up dramatically. Work it out.. 4-5 hours to complete and make a door seal so that it’s correctly bonded and secure. thats before the cost of the profile that has had to be made as it’s not a standard one and there is no details of the original manufacturer the seal uses approx 1.5mtrs plus the bonding agent. the corners cannot be purchased as they aren’t standard corners so the old ones need to be removed and cleaned and prepared and then left to set for minimum 48hrs. How much would you say you get paid per hour ?.

As a engineer who can just go online and click then they get the part delivered and then fitted and then the mark up on the part also..

I go back to the original real engineers who take things apart, find why and how its failed then try and fix it or make it better not just part swap which is what goes on as a common trait as it’s cheaper to buy a complete unit and just fit it and forget it.

If you purchased all the parts to build a car the cost is 10 times the cost of the actual fully built on because its a large production trail.

Rant over..

Bryan
Basically then you are agreeing with me when I said it was harsh on Rangemaster.

Rangemaster were told the parts would be available as long as they could be sourced, what happened though was that Lincat then turned round and said from xx date we will no longer be supplying ANY more parts.

BTW Im not an order parts off the shelf type of engineer either so I appreciate the work you are doing on the seals, as should customers because the alternative is to scrap a 5k cooker.

Do you have plenty of grill elements in ? PM if you do please.

I’ve been quoted£1990 to sort out the element in the main oven,ignition keeps ticking on when it’s alright and the small oven either burns food or doesn’t cook it so thermostat? Does anybody out there know if this is fair, it’s a 2003 model, my worry is if I pay that and something else goes wrong I’m goosed ?

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