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Morning all
Am after some technical advice.
I have a Siemens iq300 that was sounding like a concrete mixer on spin so I dismantled, expecting that the bearings are shot.
After a couple of hours I’m at the stage of splitting the drum and tub from the drive spindle that runs on the bearings . The front half of the tub just came away after removal of 15 odd screws but the back half and the stainless drum seem to be inseparable despite using a rubber mallet on the spindle. I don’t want to use too much force and generate more cost so my question is whether anyone has experience of this particular set-up?
The element is still in situ as it seems to be welded in with calcium deposits but this shouldn’t restrict removal of the drum. Additionally there are a couple of flats on the spindle shaft. Would this indicate further dismantling with an adjustable required or should I just hit it harder?
Appreciate any advice. Wash day (Sunday) fast approaching!Re: Siemens iq300 – Splitting Drum & Tub for Bearing Replace
Hi
The ENR and FD number from inside the door would help 😉
DonRe: Siemens iq300 – Splitting Drum & Tub for Bearing Replace
Apologies. Basics huh?
E-Nr: WM12P360GB/03
FD Nr: 9108 200870Re: Siemens iq300 – Splitting Drum & Tub for Bearing Replace
Cheap bearing kit here…
https://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/05bs10- … earing-kit
Put the pulley nut back on the shaft so it’s sitting just proud of the threading on the shaft, then hit it, hard.
Another trick is to do that and lift the assy up then drop it on concrete to similar from waist/chest height and that will usually convince it to move.
If all else fails, it comes down to brute force and ignorance sadly and yes, there’s a risk of damage, no way round it in some cases.
K.
Re: Siemens iq300 – Splitting Drum & Tub for Bearing Replace
Doesn’t seem to want to know, even after application of the lump hammer.
Re: Siemens iq300 – Splitting Drum & Tub for Bearing Replace
Sometimes, you just gotta admit defeat. 🙁
K.
Re: Siemens iq300 – Splitting Drum & Tub for Bearing Replace
Thanks for the help Kwatt. They’re out! Took a bit of hammering and I might need to give the spindle thread a little TLC before refitting but the spindle was pretty much welded to the inner bearing’s inner race, so much that it actually left 1/3 of the inner ring on the spindle when it came out! The bearing was destroyed upon removal but a lot of rust and corruption emanating from inside it indicates that it was a while failing.
Now, to order bearings: is it worth fitting the aftermarket bearings listed above (SKU not bad, but not Koyo or NTK) or should I go for the genuine parts at 6x the cost?
Re: Siemens iq300 – Splitting Drum & Tub for Bearing Replace
Given the age and the beating to get them out I’d use the cheap ones as a matter of course but, in all honesty, they’re not six times different from the originals. 😉
The only thing you need worry about really is water getting into the bearings due to a damaged seal and that it all goes back as it should do.
The actual bearings and seal used are a secondary concern as they’ll all last a while and, if they don’t you know something was damaged.
K.
Re: Siemens iq300 – Splitting Drum & Tub for Bearing Replace
My machine is not listed as compatible with that bearing kit Kwatt. Unless you know better?
Re: Siemens iq300 – Splitting Drum & Tub for Bearing Replace
I checked it, should be the correct one.
You’ll often find that, manufacturers rarely (if ever) provide a fit list for parts.
K.
Re: Siemens iq300 – Splitting Drum & Tub for Bearing Replace
Bearings off and spindle cleaned up. Unfortunately high speed inner bearing failure means that chunks have been removed from the spindle and the shaft where the seal sits is compromised meaning I need a new spider, which is bolted onto this model. Any ideas on where I could get an affordable one Kwatt? They all seem about £170 which would mean the machine is BER.
Re: Siemens iq300 – Splitting Drum & Tub for Bearing Replace
Nope, sorry that’s a genuine part only and that sounds about right price wise. Might get it a bit cheaper but not significantly so.
K.
Re: Siemens iq300 – Splitting Drum & Tub for Bearing Replace
Thanks Kwatt all back together, sealed up and run for the first time last night after leaving the sealant 3 days to cure. I replaced the carbon brushes and the element (as supplied by you) to give it a little more life, hopefully.
I issue I may have is that the 2 x 90deg white washes I put on last night didn’t seem to fill the drum with much water, just a couple of inches max. May I have disturbed something delicate concerning the supply of water when I was manhandling the machine to accept the drum? Everything went back in place as far as I could see and I took plenty of photos to confirm before and after. I did notice that on the rinse cycle the water enters the drum via the inlet at the top of the door seal and runs down the glass face of the door. Is it possible for a noob like me to misalign the door seal such that the water goes straight out through the drain at the base of the seal? It seemed pretty logical the way I fitted it.
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