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Hello knowledgable folk!
hopefully this is a very simple one; my 15 year old ‘IGNIS ADL 934 S’ integrated dishwasher has developed some sort of internal leak (water pooling underneath somehow). I would like to replace it rather than trying to figure it out, however it is fitted with a wooden maple door cover to match our kitchen. I presume these doors are not standard size and shape, so I can’t just fit another dishwasher and expect this door cover to be interchangeable?
Would anyone know of a suitable replacement where I could re-use the wooden door cover?
It looks similar to this:
Thank you for any advice :tup:
Re: Replacement for IGNIS Integrated Dishwasher
Hi
There is not a lot of choice these days in semi integrated dishwashers.
Hotpoint LSB5B019 comes in either white, black or stainless steel fascia. Bosch SMI50C15GB or the SMI65P15GB or Neff model S41E50S1GB again in white, black or stainless or the S41M63N1GB. These aside there is Miele but not a lot else.
The other choice would be to take your current decor door and see if you can get a full length one which matches the closest to the rest of the doors. That way you could have a fully integrated model of which there is a much larger selection.
HTH 🙂
Don
Re: Replacement for IGNIS Integrated Dishwasher
Thanks Don, that’s very helpful. I know there are lot’s of great integrated and freestanding dishwashers around, but are you suggesting that the models listed will have the same door panel dimensions as the Ignis one I’m replacing? It’s 57cm high x 59.5cm wide. If so, that would make life very easy.
The kitchen company that designed and fitted the units in 2002 just went into liquidation last week, believe it or not!! Otherwise I would have called them and enquired about ordering a replacement door. Failing either of these options I’ll have to just buy a free-standing dishwasher instead (which would be cheaper anyway), but wanted to explore the possibility of direct replacement first. Thanks again!
Re: Replacement for IGNIS Integrated Dishwasher
Ahh, just getting up to speed with your terminology – so basically, the fully integrated ones have a completely flush front panel, and the one I’m after is ‘semi-integrated’ i.e. including space for a control panel at the front? I think that Bosch SMI50C15GB looks roughly comparable wit something like a 57.5cm panel recess, but it’s very difficult to get these measurements because they only provide the overall height in the spec sheets.
Re: Replacement for IGNIS Integrated Dishwasher
Hi
If the decor door size does not fit exactly decor door spacers come with most machines in the colour of the control panel ordered. If more are needed for whatever reason these can be ordered as optional extras.
Yes you could take it all out and cut through the plinth and put a freestanding 60cm dishwasher in.
HTH 🙂
Re: Replacement for IGNIS Integrated Dishwasher
Hi again, quick follow up question. You recommended the Hotpoint LSB5B019 as a possible replacement. I need to order something tomorrow, but I’m not seeing a whole lot of love for hotpoint in general. Would you say this was a reliable machine and worth investing in for trouble-free use?
Another one I’ve looked at is a Neff S42M69N0GB, but it’s supposed to be ‘Extra Height, at around 86cm. Is this likely to fit under a standard height worktop?
Re: Replacement for IGNIS Integrated Dishwasher
Hi
As there is so little out there in semi integrated I was listing what was currently available. Bosch is better than Hotpoint. Neff and Bosch are from the same stable so not a lot to choose between them apart from the bells and whistles.
The 86cm extra height machines will not fit under standard height worktop.
HTH 🙂
Don
Re: Replacement for IGNIS Integrated Dishwasher
Thank you for all your help. Just to update, I’ve ordered a Neff S41M63N1GB Dishwasher, but the reviews online say that installation is a bit perplexing. Poor instructions, and also the inlet pipe is bulky and difficult to feed, or too big to connect. Do you know if these are genuine concerns with this product, or Neff in general?
I need to ask because the delivery driver has said he’ll only install and re-connect the pipes. Anything more complicated and they won’t touch it. But that could leave me severely in the lurch! Is there anything I can do to prepare for this in advance, or pre-order some kind of adapter to make sure they don’t go away with the excuse that the job was too difficult? Thank you again!
Re: Replacement for IGNIS Integrated Dishwasher
The fill hose will have the standard anti flood ” lump” attached to it which is larger than the standard fill hose here allow a couple of inches if the hose needs to go through a side wall of a base unit.
This aside the installation of the door and leveling is pretty much straight forward.
I have to ask in view of your comments in your last post who is supposed to be carrying out the installation, how much have you paid and are you expectimng them to do a full install?
DonRe: Replacement for IGNIS Integrated Dishwasher
Thanks for the reply. That’s a fair question. I want the retailer to deliver and fit the dishwasher since I won’t be able to do it alone. One supplier said they would deliver and fit, but it wouldn’t be a full installation, just fitting of pipes, etc. The other retailer doesn’t do install, but I’ve spoken to a couple of plumbers who say they could do that for £50 – £65 once delivered. If there is the possibility of complications during installation I would rather have a dedicated fitter than just the delivery driver.
Re: Replacement for IGNIS Integrated Dishwasher
Well, I’ve ended up with a new Miele G4203i and had a plumber come and install it. Having just run my first cycle I’m happy with it but notice that at the end it was still slightly wet inside. ie, there were drops of water on the inside panels, a few little drops here and there on the cutlery and a pool of water sitting on on an upside-down bowl. Not knowing what to expect I’m just wondering if this is about normal or if I should expect it to be bone dry if slightly humid straight after a cycle? I ask because in the manual it states:
Water remains in the
wash cabinet at the end
of a programme.Before rectifying the problem:
? Switch the dishwasher off with the ? button.The filter combination in the wash cabinet is clogged.
? Clean the filter combination (see “Cleaning and
care, Cleaning the filters”).The drain pump or non-return valve may be blocked.
? Clean the drain pump or the non-return valve (see
“Maintenance”).The drain hose is kinked.
? Remove any kink from the drain hose.Given that this is new I’m guessing the likely issue is a kink in the drain hose? However given that it took about 3 hours to install this dishwasher the last thing I want to do it pull it all out again on my own and check so I’m wondering if a little water is actual just normal.
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