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Hi All
After nearly 10 years great service the FFA40X has ground to a halt. Overtemp warning lights adn beeps only – Not a peep from the compressor, can’t hear any relay clicks either (but I am a bit deaf!). Worth trying a new relay o/load pack or should I call time in this machine? Seems a shame to junk it without any effort, compressors used to last 20 years didn’t they?!Cheers
Re: Hotpoint FFA40X – Lights on no-one at home!
Ok so measured the compressor coils – that came in at 12.5 and 17.5 and total 30 Ohms. The PTC appeared to have a short across it when cold (I think I probed the right terminals) – this wouald all appear to be ok.. I have yet tested it live so maybe something else is cutting it out..
Any thoughts?
Re: Hotpoint FFA40X – Lights on no-one at home!
Sounds like the compressor is fried, shouldn’t be anything else in the way really so long as the relay/PTC is ok.
K.
Re: Hotpoint FFA40X – Lights on no-one at home!
Hi K
Thanks for the reply – do you reach that conclusion from the coil readings? BTW I also checked each terminal for short to earth and they were OK. Presumably a duff compressor mean beyond economical(or sensible) repair..
Cheers
James
Re: Hotpoint FFA40X – Lights on no-one at home!
Nope.
Without seeing how it’s all wired and whatnot could be shorted, then you’d get a reading where you shouldn’t like, live or neutral to earth. But honestly it’s a simple setup so if it’s dead then you’ve got two choices the PTC/relay and the pot.
The PTC you probably will struggle to get, seen that a lot recently on Hotpoint as they keep swapping the pots they use, obsoleting the older version so you need to replace the pot to change a PTC. I know, crazy but it’s what they do.
Therefore, chances are that irrespective, you’d end up in the same place just more stressed and annoyed after searching for an age you can’t get.
You could try a universal relay/PTC or if like us you had some kicking about you could try but, aside that you’ll probably struggle to get one to even try it.
K.
Re: Hotpoint FFA40X – Lights on no-one at home!
Ah yes I have already looked for the replacement PTC/O-load and as you suggest it’s not coming up on any of my searches. I might try a universal item at some point as I hate throwing stuff into landfill – meantime looks like a need to get a new FF to keep the household happy. Cheers
James
Re: Hotpoint FFA40X – Lights on no-one at home!
The most common ones we’ve come across are listed here:
https://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/univers … sor-relays
K.
Re: Hotpoint FFA40X – Lights on no-one at home!
Ok so weekend’s here and I spent a few minutes probing about and researching. Compressor is ACC HYK12AA and the spec sheet is on-line.. http://www.the-acc-group.com/ACCDocs/152.pdf The coil readings I made match the spec and my PTC resistance is reading 18 Ohms against 14 on the spec. I’m getting 240VAC at the common connector and neutral buzzes out as expected
So question is can a compressor go ‘phut’ with coils still in spec? Or maybe a run capacitor fault? Strange thing is couldn’t see a cap although it is shown in the circuit sticker on the back of the unit.
Cheers
Re: Hotpoint FFA40X – Lights on no-one at home!
It’s basically just an electric pump in an enclosed case so, if it jams the answer to that is yes and it’s not always an electrical problem as it’s an electro-mechanical device.
Trouble being of course, you can’t inspect it beyond the outer casing to see what the problem might be.
All the PTC/relay does is fire it up to run and serve as a protection device, that’s about it really.
K.
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