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November 26, 2017 at 10:36 pm #92717
cfam
ParticipantGreetings All,
My Gem 1000 washing machine did something spectacular during the night 🙁 . I discovered this by the strange odour that greeted me when I woke the next morning . I traced it to the washing machine. I saw that it had stopped mid-cycle through the hot wash programme :eeek: (which I do occasionally). The power light was out and basically the machine had stopped 😮 . Drained and emptied the machine. I removed the top panel and noted immediately that the wiring to a component next to the transformer had become disconnected :conf: . I also saw a sticky residue, flakes of silver foil in places and a long strip on floor beneath the machine 😯 . The part I think is a capacitor which seems to have – for want of a word – exploded ❗ ❗ ❗
My first port of call for answers is this forum 🙂 to seek words of wisdom from its many oracles 😀 (which I always recommend to my friends). So I pose my questions in hope of answers from the wise here assembled:
1. What does this part do? Looking at some other forum posts it seems to be a power booster for an induction motor.
2. Why did the part explode? Perhaps just due to the components age. I know capacitors can leak or become dry over time.
3. What other components could have been damaged as a result of this event?
4. Is this part replaceable and at what cost? I can do some basic electrical work provided it is plug and play, with a little soldering if required.I have not noted anything amiss in the behaviour of the washing machine mostly because I run it overnight on E7. However, on occasions when I have been still up an about during that time, I have noted a couple of things:
– the rotation of the drum during the wash cycle seemed fast, the laundry inside did not tumble as I have seen in other washing machines, laundry tended to hug the sides of the drum with the water sloshing over the clothing. I paid no heed to this since it did not affect the resulting cleanliness of the wash. Just took this to be normal.
– it does sound as if it is taking off when it enters a spin cycle, but I put this down to an unbalanced load which I found can happen when washing a load of towels
– the drum and its bearings appear to be in good condition, I can rotate the drum easily and there is no grating sound, and no play when I lift the drum at the front
– all in all, the machine’s mechanical components appear sound.I know many would say just buy a new one but I am loathe to dispose of something that is basically sound. I accept there would be a case if the cost of repair is not justified. Your thoughts are welcomed.
Regards.
CFAM.
November 27, 2017 at 3:46 am #451970electrofix
ModeratorRe: Servis Washing Machine M330 (Gem 1000)
from what I can see that’s the mains interference suppressor and not the motor cap
if I am correct the flex from the plug connects directly to it
https://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/5320003 … suppressor
to answer some of your questions
1 part is a mains suppressor to stop interference
2 because it wanted to. its not an unusual fault
3 probably no other components will be affected
4 cost see link aboveDave
November 27, 2017 at 8:23 am #451971cfam
ParticipantRe: Servis Washing Machine M330 (Gem 1000)
Hello Dave,
Thank you for identifying the part :D. I have uploaded a wider view of the part in place. The component on the left is the blown capacitor and on the right is the mains input.
In terms of the repair, I note the replacement capacitor is rated 10A whereas as the original is 16A but it is listed as a compatible part for my washing machine. I see this as just replacement of the capacitor using the one provided in the link, which looks straight-forward :tup:. Clean up of the terminals and other residue. Detach blown component. Install new component. Reconnect terminals.
I am not averse to the idea of buying a new washing machine just don’t like the idea of scrapping a serviceable machine which, for one inexpensive component, may continue to be useful. I expect at some point to replace the machine.
The potential replacements I have identified so far are the Bosch WAQ284S0GB or the Bosch WAN28201GB. As far as I can tell from the details the only significant differences between them, from a user perspective, are the cosmetic appearance and the available washing programmes. (I am perplexed by the WAQ’s options for washing out tomatoes, red wine and butter. I presume this is meant to illustrate the types of clothing stains. It would be interesting to know how Bosch make these distinctions and the how significantly these affect the washing programme, higher temperature, more agitation, soaking.) From a repairs perspective which would be better? I have seen discussion on the trends toward sealed drums which hinder the replacement of the bearings.
Regards,
CFAM
November 27, 2017 at 8:49 am #451972electrofix
ModeratorRe: Servis Washing Machine M330 (Gem 1000)
Of the 2 bosch machines I would choose WAN28201GB. reason is the main tub. on this model its possible to split the tub to repair but the other model its a sealed unit. In my experience the non sealed tub seem to be built better therefore less likely to fail
current difference on cap is not a prob and all you have to do is get connections in the right place
Dave
November 28, 2017 at 12:50 pm #451973cfam
ParticipantRe: Servis Washing Machine M330 (Gem 1000)
Hello Dave,
Thank you for your help and comments. I have ordered the replacement capacitor using the link provided. Hopefully my Gem 1000 should be back up and running by the weekend 🙂 .
Regards,
CFAM
December 4, 2017 at 12:59 am #451974cfam
ParticipantRe: Servis Washing Machine M330 (Gem 1000)
Hello Dave,
Just thought I’d provide you with a follow-up and to say thank you.
My Servis Gem 1000 is back up and running :tup: 😀 :tup:
Received the new capacitor this afternoon – surprised by the delivery on a Sunday. Fitting new component took about fifteen minutes since I had to figure out how to make the correct connections being without the guide of the original component. Took around thirty mins to clean out the remnants of the old capacitor, making sure that there was no stray foil that could cause a short circuit. Re-attached back and top covers. Plugged the machine into the mains then set the machine to a spin setting, just to make sure that something worked. Loaded the machine and set to a ‘normal’ wash run which completed normally. So all in all an hour of my time plus £15 plus Dave’s diagnostic has postponed the day for a new washing machine – this is good for the environment and good for my pocket.
I also found some of the repair videos on Youtube to be a good source for guidance to gauge the point when a DIY repair is not a good idea because of time, effort, technical difficulty or requiring specialist tools.
Regards,
CFAM.
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