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Re: appliance fires
Read about it on Which? earlier, let’s just say there’s one or two issues. š
K.
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This topic came up on BBC local radio this morning and they had a senior fire officer being interviewed who said as part of his statement that “The interaction between the consumer and the appliance is a factor in appliance fires”
A statement which will have gone over the heads of the majority of listeners but which roughly translated means customer misuse.
A point which no one seems to be addressing.Steve
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agree there how many of us have been to totally blocked condensers ?
who reads the manual ” I had a drier before and they are all the same” lol
Dave
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EFS wrote:which roughly translated means customer misuse.
A point which no one seems to be addressing.A bit harsh Steve, Ken and his website have been banging on about it for years š and Iām sure you, as have I, lectured our customers over their misdeeds endlessly.
But as Ken knows I always believed and maintained that appliance manufacturers should make their products bomb proof in the first place. British and EU safety standards are to blame there, ask the LFB !
Front runner in all this, and the gold medal winner is without doubt Whirlpool. Proud manufacturer of the most dangerous tumble dryer you could ever wish to own. Stir in customer misuse and :fire:
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They are all made to internationally agreed standards and meet the safety requirements thereof.
If not, prosecutions would be swift and brutal as governments would set an example… if they got caught.
If there was enough evidence to support misdeeds at Indesit/Hotpoint whatever they called themselves then criminal proceedings would be looked at I expect and, that’d cost the taxpayer to bring to court. Given the squadrons of QCs that’d no doubt be involved that would run into a cost of many millions.
Many millions nobody has to spend when the evidence is even a little bit iffy and, it is.
But Martin it is very important to bear in mind that Whirlpool inherited this problem it was not of their making and they are in no way responsible for it at all so, I’d be very careful how you worded such commentary as what you have written there is patently untrue. Could even be construed as libellous and, there are people from Whirlpool on here that read stuff you know.
The topic has been widely discussed in numerous forums and the bottom line is that, if all want safer products then you are correct, the standards need to be changed and, those are international safety standards that are not affected be politics. It will take years and the agreement of many international bodies to change it.
In the meantime, we are where we are.
No doubt the various fire services, media outlets and politicians will continue to try to forge a name for themselves with shocking, attention seeking headlines to draw in the suckers stupid enough to believe it.
K.
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I personally wouldnāt regard anyone being made aware of potential fire hazard products by the fire service, media or politicians as āsuckersā TBH. The sooner the public are made aware of the dangers by anyone the better.
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The danger was always there.
It didn’t just appear as if by magic.
Anything that has electricity in it can go on or cause fire, period. End of story.
Only the degree of risk varies.
And, statistically, appliance fires are actually very low and, once you factor out the muppets that don’t use, maintain, clean or install them correctly I’m sure that the figure drops to almost insignificance.
K.
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Remembered about this thread when I saw this earlier.
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macmini wrote:Remembered about this thread when I saw this earlier.
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news … ed-180276/
Iām thinking the source could well be the circuit board? More exciting Beko stories could follow here.
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Methinks that’s Which? trying to remain looking relevant in the internet age. š
The actual danger posed is hardly what you could call significant. All the more so when assessed in conjunction with other fire risks in people’s homes.
I doubt it’ll make a huge difference in the grand scheme and people (including Which?) will move onto the next big thing soon enough when they find they’re flogging a dead horse.
K.
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I applaud the stance taken by Which? Fully justified and supported officially by LFB. Domestic appliance fires are receiving a high degree of media exposure including massive coverage throughout the Internet. All of which, cannot be argued, is a good thing both in creating greater public awareness toward appliance care and alerting manufacturers into including greater safety design in their products.
Consumers will insist on buying metal backed fridges more and more. Forcing manufacturers to rethink their design long before any EU or UK regulation is put in place. Likewise avoiding tumble dryers well known for their appalling safety and design issues. Which? have themselves taken a firm stance toward a certain manufacturer and once more the BBCās forthcoming āRip Off Britainā will make mention no doubt.
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Trouble is the redesigning, tooling and production is going to take time. Retailers are going to have to sell through the old stock to make way for the new as well.
No doubt it will l be a couple of years at least before we see any big change. In the meantime Beko are the only manufacturer to have flame retardant backs to all their refrigeration and have done so for some years now.
Don
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