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Hi there – what an amazing forum this is. I’ve been reading quite a lot of the posts but can’t find an answer to my question so thought I’d post myself.
I have moved into a new house and there is a Britannia range (SI-E10T-MB-CH) from 2002. All seemed to be ok with it, until one lunchtime, a few days after we arrived, we used the grill in the main oven. It worked for a few minutes then tripped the RCD. We reset the RCD and found that we could use the hobs and 2nd oven & grill in there normally on the range, but any of the 9 functions, other than just the light, when selected on the main oven meant the RCD tripped straight away.
We faffed about and tried it again a few times later in the day but all acted the same way.
The following morning everything was back working normally! We were a bit confused but happy and thought maybe some water had got into the control or something. That evening we used the main fan oven, which worked for 10 minutes or so before the RCD tripped again. The RCD was reset and we carried on cooking in the 2nd oven. After the meal we found that the main oven and all its features were working ok again, albeit for the minute or two we tested them for, without tripping RCD.
I do have a multimeter and know how to test continuity and insulation to earth, but lack some conviction and experience as to where to poke it in this instance. Any thoughts?!
Re: Britannia Range tripping RCD… some of the time
Check the main oven selector switch for arcing or terminals burnt, you’ve an 80{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} or higher chance that’s the problem.
I’d need the ART and serial numbers from the rating plate on the oven door opening to tell you what one it is in it if needed.
K.
Re: Britannia Range tripping RCD… some of the time
Thanks for the quick response. OK, I see. I’ll have a look at getting the hob top off and inspecting the selector switch tomorrow. In the meantime here are the details:
ART is PDE100NMP, and I think the serial no. is 02240555 if I’m reading the right bit.
Thanks again
Re: Britannia Range tripping RCD… some of the time
I don’t have all the info here but it’s almost for sure one of these three:
http://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/a03408-o … tor-switch
http://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/a03411-o … tor-switch
http://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/a03409-o … tor-switch
They’re easy to tell apart (for a change) even visually.
K.
Re: Britannia Range tripping RCD… some of the time
Thanks kwatt. I can see it’s the first of these. I’ll let you know how I get on!
Re: Britannia Range tripping RCD… some of the time
Unfortunately this continues…
I replaced the selector switch and all seemed fine. To be honest I was quite chuffed that I managed to get all the wires connected to the right pins and was on the verge of posting lots of thanks here!Anyhow, the oven got a fair bit of use in most modes except grill over a couple of weeks, but the first time the grill was used the same problem occurred… the grill started to heat up ok but after a few minutes I turned the temp dial down. At the point that you get the little click and it turned the element off, the RCD tripped. The RCD was reset and we had the same problem that we had had before immediately after. That is that the RCD would trip if any of the main oven options were selected, not just the grill.
The following day all the main oven functions could be used again, and we’ve been using it frequently again in all modes except grill succesfully for another couple of weeks. So any ideas on what the issue might be? A faulty safety thermostat?
Thanks again in advance!
Re: Britannia Range tripping RCD… some of the time
It’s hard to be suer as just about anything that has electricity can cause tripping faults but from what you describe my bet would be the grill energy regulator.
If it were the element it’d trip all the time (usually) so that’s the obvious thing given that all the rest seems okay.
What I need to know is, from the picture above, what position it’s on, there’s two used, 4 and 5, it’s just what one you need although I think it’s a dual one, position 4 that is this one:
http://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/a45603-d … tor-switch
Or this compatible one:
http://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/3350035- … -regulator
K.
Re: Britannia Range tripping RCD… some of the time
That makes sense, though I’m slightly unsure what you’re asking about for positions 4 or 5 – as the items labelled 4 or 5 in the diagram are hob controllers (4 being single zone, 5 being dual zone – on my range at least). The grill/oven temperature control would be item 19 I think, though it’s more than possible I’ve got completely the wrong end of the stick!
Let me know if I need to clarify anything. Thanks.
Re: Britannia Range tripping RCD… some of the time
Sorry, I’m obviously getting a bit confused here or I haven’t been very good at explaining things. I kind of thought you meant the thermostat as there isn’t a separate energy regulator with a dial for the grill. To be clear (more for my benefit that yours!), here’s a pic of the front of my oven. Grill is selected using the leftmost dial then the thermostat dial is used to control the temp. Same thermostat dial for the oven if that’s selected.
Apologies if I’m being a complete imbecile. Thanks for your patience – it’s very much appreciated.
Re: Britannia Range tripping RCD… some of the time
No need to apologise, all I’ve got is a line drawing to work from and it’s all too possible it uses the oven stat to regulate the grill on that model.
The problem there is that if the oven works fine and doesn’t trip then that’s ruled out as it works in exactly the same way for the oven as it does for the grill.
I’d not think it the element, stranger things I suppose and the centre is energised on grilling, the outer is usually only used when it’s used as a static oven so it’s possible I suppose but, I’d expect that to trip near enough immediately the grill was put on if it were that.
Other than that, there’s not much else it can be really.
K.
Re: Britannia Range tripping RCD… some of the time
OK, thanks. So do you think getting a new grill element and changing that is worth a punt for the sake of £35 or so. I’m guessing changing a thermostat is a lot trickier?
Re: Britannia Range tripping RCD… some of the time
Not really, it’s much of a muchness to be honest. Guess the element’s a bit easier but not much other than you need to get to the control panel to change the stat.
K.
Evening
I am have very similar issues with my Britannia oven. When I turn on the fan oven as soon as I move from the first light setting to the grill, bang, it trips. I have disconnected all the wires from the grill element and it is OK but I cannot find the replacement part on the site. Mine has 4 loop elements on it and a ring element running round the outside, I can only find a 3 loop one which I believe is for the other oven.. My other oven, I can put it on and it starts heating up but after about 5 mins it also trips the circuit. Would this be an element as well? Help please.
Thanks
Chris
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