TDS Offline 01/2004 DVD

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  • #9610
    laurenceuk
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    Hi,

    Has the above dvd ran out of time? I can no longer use mine. It has been ok until recently.

    Every time I try to open it a windows popup blocker appears which never used to. Probably came with an auto update. If I then allow the download it asks me to save or cancel and describes possible corruption problems or unsupported file type (.vbd).

    If I click save, it saves to Prog folder but cannot be opened because it is unsupported.

    The popup blocker won`t turn off either no matter what I do according to its directions. I have restarted computer to see if this makes a difference.

    Frustrated 😡

    Laurence

    #134846
    Dave_Conway
    Participant

    Re: TDS Offline 01/2004 DVD

    Mine’s done the same today 🙁

    It happens when something new is installed, try reinstalling it Laurence, it should be OK then 😉

    Dave.

    #134847
    sparkey
    Participant

    Re: TDS Offline 01/2004 DVD

    TDS Offline has been updated for several months, you should now be using DVD UK 2005.

    As always latest copy available from Distriparts (at a cost)

    Guess the 2004 copy must have a time limit which has now run out.

    Regards
    Sparkey

    #134848
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: TDS Offline 01/2004 DVD

    You know, I’ve kept my mouth shut on this for a long time but really, we’re all mad with this nonsense.

    We are expected to spend money with these companies, put food on their table and then, on top of that, we’re expected to pay for the privilege of looking up the goods to do it as well! Insane, just totally insane.

    I wonder what would happen to Littlewoods or Argos if they started charging for their catalogues for customer to buy goods?

    K.

    #134849
    Penguin45
    Participant

    Re: TDS Offline 01/2004 DVD

    Hooray! Well said that man…..

    I suspect it’s just the latest form of protectionism that has plagued all trade for time immemorable. Anything that turns a buck………

    Chris.

    #134850
    dpm
    Participant

    Dave, did you get yours up and running again? I’m sure there’s a way round any timelock 😉

    #134851
    eastlmark
    Moderator

    Re: TDS Offline 01/2004 DVD

    No problem with mine, I know Dave will have had the most up to date version as well.

    #134852
    Dave_Conway
    Participant

    Re: TDS Offline 01/2004 DVD

    Nope, but I also didn’t notice until now the version Laurence has, mine is the 2005 version which also borked yesterday at home.

    I’ll take my work copy home tonight and try it.

    There is no way around the time lock as far as I am aware.

    Dave.

    #134853
    Martin
    Participant

    Re: TDS Offline 01/2004 DVD

    kwatt wrote:I wonder what would happen to Littlewoods or Argos if they started charging for their catalogues for customer to buy goods?

    That’s very true of the Indesit ‘Partfinder’ CD but not so the ‘TDS Offline’. As we discussed at Sibson last time, there are “terms and conditions” attached to the supply of all CD’s and DVD’s containing technical information. Licenses need be applied and adhered to for the exclusive benefit of trade users. Therefore some modest charge has to be applied and a time-out factor built in to enable much needed updates adding.

    Slag off Indesit by all means, not TDS. God ‘elp us if they suddenly issued them out free in Argos or Comet with every new washing machine they sold!

    (That reminds me I must save up for my new copy :rotl: )

    #134854
    dpm
    Participant

    Anyone got an “expired” disc they’d like to donate to science?

    It’s amazing the variance there can be in the supply of technical info- look at the motor trade, many manufacturers won’t release *anything* yet Suzuki for example will sell you (over the counter, retail) a cd containing factory service info inc. diagnostics and wiring diagrams for not much more than the price of a haynes book…

    #134855
    Lawrence
    Participant

    Re: TDS Offline 01/2004 DVD

    kwatt wrote:I wonder what would happen to Littlewoods or Argos if they started charging for their catalogues for customer to buy goods?

    Martin wrote:Slag off Indesit by all means, not TDS. God ‘elp us if they suddenly issued them out free in Argos or Comet with every new washing machine they sold!

    I think the point is that we are having to buy information to enable us to buy parts to then repair a product . I take the point about licenses etc but
    after all if they front loaded the costs of licensing and production costs on to the parts we would be none the wiser ,they then supply the info free, voila they cover there costs we dont feel ripped off and we are all happy

    If the catalogue companies charged you for the privilige of having their catalogues think what it would do to there sales .
    surely Argos et al must factor in there catalogue costs somewhere must’nt they ?
    Lawrence

    #134856
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: TDS Offline 01/2004 DVD

    Point taken Martin, but then what did we all do before the days of CD ROMs or DVDs? Why we called up our local distributor or agent and got the information required, free gratis as we were spending money with them.

    Now we have a host of these discs from many companies costing us hundreds of pounds a year, for what? The odd occasion where a wiring diagram is required or we need to order a part.

    I do accept that TDS is better than most, but it still isn’t all the information, there’s a load of it missing from there (from what I’ve been told as I don’t use it) like how to reprogram certain machines. And even at that we go out, repair the product using spares bought off the back of that information. But I wasn’t having a dig at TDS in particular, just this nonsense of having to buy these discs to spend money with these companies, it’s insanity.

    Even as agents we have to buy some of them, actually pay for them to carry out work under warranty on behalf of the manufacturer. So we do a job for them and they charge us for the privilege… nice eh?

    But then I guess that if you have a couple of hundred people paying £100 or so a year for a disc or two that nicely offsets a big chunk of the costs involved in making it easier for those that buy it to spend more with you.

    Nice work, wish I could dupe people like that.

    K.

    #134857
    Martin
    Participant

    Re: TDS Offline 01/2004 DVD

    I think (Ken) you need to cast your eye on the TDS disc to appreciate its invaluable, comprehensive information (including re-programming etc) that is available to all in the trade. Without such information being available in this way Electrolux/Zanussi would have struggled to control the ‘service’ side of their business here in the UK. So in spite of it’s modest cost and the constant need to up-date, it’s regarded by all as the way forward.

    Sadly, that has not yet dawned on the other major player in this business (a.k.a. Indesit) who believes it can control the technical side of the business single handedly within its own infrastructure. Anyone within that organisation that has access to these many pages of UKW will quickly realise just as a certain Jack Swigert said to Ground Control in Houston on April 13th aboard Apollo 13….”Houston, we’ve had a problem here!”

    Each year April 13th comes around I wonder if ‘Ground Control’ Milano (and or Peterborough) will realise that their oxygen tank has also ‘blown’ but sadly in their case they haven’t produced a CD Rom to be able to deal with it…………..!! 🙄

    #134858
    streetlighter
    Participant

    Re: TDS Offline 01/2004 DVD

    Hi all
    I presume I can buy the latest version of distriparts now ( mine has also expired ) but does anyone know when the present version of mfi identiffier came out I dont want to buy one at £35 for it to expire on me after a month 😥

    Ta

    Paul

    #134859
    Dave_Conway
    Participant

    Re: TDS Offline 01/2004 DVD

    Identiffier issue 7 was released about a month ago so you should be OK for a while Paul.

    Dave.

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