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May 10, 2020 at 10:07 am #97595
rdewsbery
ParticipantSo after 12+ years service, our ISE10 has thrown both fault codes at once.
We’ve had a few F3s, so I know the drill. This time as well as checking for foreign objects, I went all the way along the drain pathway to the sink, and cleared it all out. But turning the machine back on again, the same F3&F4 faults are still showing.
Does anyone know what the problem might be? And is there anyone in north Birmingham/Sutton Coldfield that could fix?
May 10, 2020 at 10:14 am #468569rdewsbery
ParticipantI should have said that for the past month or two, it’s tripped the main circuit breaker on the house electrics several times. Though each time resetting the CB and restarting the WM sees it finish the wash without further incident.
May 11, 2020 at 10:51 pm #468570electrofix
Moderatordoes the display show segments for both faults lit at the same time ?
one is a fill fault the other a drain the only thing they sort of have in common is the water level switch
Dave
May 12, 2020 at 11:32 am #468571iadom
ModeratorWhen you get the F3 has the machine actually failed to drain? I’m just wondering if the CB tripping might be related to the motor and also giving spurious error messages. This early ISE machine had a brush gear FHP motor unlike the later machines which used an induction motor. Have you ever had the motor brushes changed on this machine. Even with modest use they would be near end of life after 12 years. When it is set to a spin cycle does it sound a little harsh or ‘crackling’ ?
The motor is quite easy to remove to allow the brushes to be inspected.October 29, 2020 at 7:05 pm #468572rdewsbery
ParticipantWe had an engineer out, took the back and top off, sucked his teeth a few times, then said that the machine was probably on its way out, the bearings were shot, not worth repairing, and basically a bit rubbish. He did offer us a £50 discount on something new (and disposable, I dare say). He didn’t look at the brushes, and put it back together. At which point the faults cleared, and it worked again.
it’s worked fine for a further five months, but last week started making a popping sound and some flashes (plus that lovely ozone smell). I’m not an engineer, but even I know that’s the brushes gone. Hopefully I haven’t buggered the armature by not checking and replacing the brushes five months ago. And zero stars for the engineer I called out.
thanks all.
October 29, 2020 at 7:35 pm #468573iadom
ModeratorThese are the genuine brushes for that model. https://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/ask8801195-asko-asea-fhp-washing-machine-carbon-brushes
At this age you could use other FHP brushes as long as the ends of the carbons are the correct angle.
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