Bosch reliability

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  • #97970
    paolo
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    I know that generally Bosch is a good make, we have had many that have lasted well, but are they as reliable as they used to be.
    We have a Bosch Exxcel 7 which is only 4 years old, ( I have another thread regarding this machine and dirty washing). In that time I have already had to change the door seal and recently the top of the powder drawer housing, and now the shock absorbers and bearings have gone. I was speaking to a friend who had bought a top of the range Bosch washer and the bearings on that went after 7 months.
    Were we both unlucky or is this a general trend?

    #470281
    electrofix
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    All machines are not as good as they used to be but in general terms they are cheaper and you get what you pay for

    A lot of Bosch machines have started using a sealed drum. This means any problems with the drum assembly then it gets replaced with the resulting high cost

    some machines as far as we know are still using a splittable tub (WAN Series). in my opinion these seem to last longer

    Dave

    #470282
    paolo
    Participant

    Thanks Dave, your comment re sealed drum and the inherent cost has convince me to get a new machine, but not another Bosch!

    #470283
    don
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    The majority of machines nowadays have sealed tubs, the new Bosch series 2 range still has a tub that can be split. With the cheaper price of machines especially in the current times it will not be cost effective to do.

    There is going to be a lot of box shifting this year of which we are already seeing. Just this morning we have been offered Maytag ( Whirlpool) 8kg 1400 spin to retail at £249.00 inc VAT !!

    Don

    #470284
    paolo
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    Decided to push the boat out and went for a Miele.

    #470285
    Gokhk
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    Miele are better but even they are not as good as they used to be , cutting costs and penny pinching is part or thier process too now sadly but they are still a cut above the rest thats for sure. Shame really but i think well buikt and servicable older machines or ones with 5 year warrantys give relative peace of mind from a financial point of view. Just my 2 cents.

    #470286
    andyjawa
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    Hmm. Well I do not rate Bosch that highly as I have had Bosch sealed tanks fail at 4 years and Neff b/in washer dryers with splitable tanks fail at 4.5 years. If the machine has been thrashed with knackered bearings expect to pay £230 for the rear half tank and about the same price for a drum ( which only comes with a new spider )….basically you are not going to win unless you get lucky. It boils down to Bosch & Co being poor quality these days. Better machine would be an Lg in my opinion but spares can and do go obsolete as do Haier spares. There isn`t really anything out there that rocks my boat. Miele are reasonable machines but can be horrendously expensive to get fixed so I would not be overly keen buying one of those either: get unlucky at it fails at 7 years badly ( which despite all the hype happens ) and that Miele that cost 800 quid ( for example ) could cost £400 to put right so now you are caught by the short ones, too expensive to scrap perhaps but too expensive to take a 400 quid repair gamble. I would consider buying the Whirlpool at 250 quid and take a gamble but not under the Maytag banner ( Whirlpool spares are however a rip off, Maytag spares are a bigger rip off! Both have sealed tanks too )……at this rate it`ll be a Curry`s Logik at 200 quid: dismanteable tank, bearings, contrary to popular belief, can be bought separate from a 83 quid half tank but not from Partmaster ( but of course! ) and the rest of the other parts are an almost reasonable price. No point buying an Indesit: 10 year parts warranty is only useful if the bearings fail – sealed tank, or the pcb fails – lap topped onsite by Indesit everything else anyone can fix way less than the £115 labour charge given most Indesits only cost circ 200 quid to begin with.

    #470287
    Gokhk
    Participant

    andyjawa wrote:Hmm. Well I do not rate Bosch that highly as I have had Bosch sealed tanks fail at 4 years and Neff b/in washer dryers with splitable tanks fail at 4.5 years. If the machine has been thrashed with knackered bearings expect to pay £230 for the rear half tank and about the same price for a drum ( which only comes with a new spider )….basically you are not going to win unless you get lucky. It boils down to Bosch & Co being poor quality these days. Better machine would be an Lg in my opinion but spares can and do go obsolete as do Haier spares. There isn`t really anything out there that rocks my boat. Miele are reasonable machines but can be horrendously expensive to get fixed so I would not be overly keen buying one of those either: get unlucky at it fails at 7 years badly ( which despite all the hype happens ) and that Miele that cost 800 quid ( for example ) could cost £400 to put right so now you are caught by the short ones, too expensive to scrap perhaps but too expensive to take a 400 quid repair gamble. I would consider buying the Whirlpool at 250 quid and take a gamble but not under the Maytag banner ( Whirlpool spares are however a rip off, Maytag spares are a bigger rip off! Both have sealed tanks too )……at this rate it`ll be a Curry`s Logik at 200 quid: dismanteable tank, bearings, contrary to popular belief, can be bought separate from a 83 quid half tank but not from Partmaster ( but of course! ) and the rest of the other parts are an almost reasonable price. No point buying an Indesit: 10 year parts warranty is only useful if the bearings fail – sealed tank, or the pcb fails – lap topped onsite by Indesit everything else anyone can fix way less than the £115 labour charge given most Indesits only cost circ 200 quid to begin with.

    What do you think of samsung Andy ?

    my mum had one for 5 years with no issues but then like the American fridge it started to go wrong and its in garage to be looked it , mind you it only cost 300 when new from best buy (yes thats how long ago it was) , iv only recently joined here but learnt so much already big thanks to everyone on here for the insight and helpful comments.

    #470288
    electrofix
    Moderator

    Not a great lover of Samsung
    overpriced spares and little or no tech support unless your a samsung agent

    Dave

    #470289
    andyjawa
    Participant

    Ditti Dav`s comment.

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