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Hi,
Finally managed to get an activation link so i could post something! On the plus side that lead to me reading a fair bit whilst i was waiting. Must say, this is the most informative site/forum I’ve come across 🙂
So i just bought a house that I’ve been living in now for a couple of weeks and…the integrated washing machine seems to have given up the ghost. briefly, it no longer spins, unable to turn the drum manually without much force (belt off), and the drum rocks back and forth like crazy. When it broke there was a lot of banging before it just stopped spinning during the final rinse (loads of rubber over the clothes too). The machine is a HJA 8552 and there’s not much online about it. I think its around 10-15 years old.
I’m now looking for a machine to replace it but would like you’re informed advice. Details below:
Family of 5: 2 adults – 3 kids
1 wash a day at the most, usually around 5 a week.
Line drying after, though we dry in the house during the colder/wetter months ( so most months) using drying racks and a dehumidifier.
The existing machine is 82x60x54 (HxWxD) taken from the manual. The manual also states that it requires space of 60w, 886h and 600d.I’m looking to buy something mid range at least and during my searches I’ve been looking at things with a 5 year warranty at least (not sure if this is smart, just seems to at least ensure that I’m safe for 5 years and that the vendors put some stock in these machines). I’m aiming for something under £500 but can stretch a little upwards if it’s worth it. I’m also not particularly interested in going for something integrated as it seems really limited and costly. That said, I’m not sure if it’s as simple as that, is there anything i need to consider other than the dimensions?
I’ve been looking at LG and AEG as there’s a few deals for them out there with a 5 year warranty around the £500 mark. There’s a bunch of samsung ones out there but I’ve written them off based on reliability info from this site and some other forums.
The following are the ones I’ve found with 5 years warranty:
LG F4V310WNE – £400
AEG L7FEE865R – £500
LG F4V709WTSE – £500I’m not sure all these will fit however, I’m going to head to the kitchen and take some measurements of the space itself and see what it looks like.
I also considered going for a washer-dryer as we have no dryer nor no current space for one….but after reading info on this site, I’ve decided to stick with line/rack drying as the cons seem to outweigh the pros.
This is my first time buy a washing machine (have been a tenant up until last month) and any advice would be greatly appreciated
Thanks in advance
this is probably one of the candy built ones and they are really tough but they all die in the end. modern candy is no where near as good
you have an integrated machine, all of the above seem to be non integrated so wont hide behind the kitchen door. Was that your intention ?Dave
electrofix wrote:this is probably one of the candy built ones and they are really tough but they all die in the end. modern candy is no where near as good
you have an integrated machine, all of the above seem to be non integrated so wont hide behind the kitchen door. Was that your intention ?Dave
yeah, it looks like it done its time. I was going to call someone out to take a look at it but judging by the symptoms, it doesn’t seem like it’ll be worth it.
I sort of had a look at the price difference and options available when it comes to freestanding vs integrated and it seems to me that integrated is more hassle than its worth (when the only real pro to them is aesthetics). I think happy for the new one not to be hidden behind a cupbaord door if I can get a more robust/better machine at a significantly lower price…so long as it doesn’t stick out past the worktop.
if you want quality look at Miele they have been top of the tree for years
Aeg is a Zanussi in disguise
lg can be hard for parts with little or no tech support unless your an agent, miele is the same but have a higher build quality normallyDave
electrofix wrote:if you want quality look at Miele they have been top of the tree for years
Aeg is a Zanussi in disguise
lg can be hard for parts with little or no tech support unless your an agent, miele is the same but have a higher build quality normallyDave
Thanks Dave.
Miele come in quite past the £500 mark for anything other than the entry level, and the warranty is only 2 years. Unless I’m misinformed, if there are any issues after the 2 years (which I’ve read happens more often than in the past), aren;t they quite costly to repair? Also they (at least the ones in my budget) seem to run deeper than 60cm, the niche i have is exactly 60cm from the back of the wall to edge of the cupboard next to it (so it’s in line with the rest of the under counter cabinets). the mieles all seem to be 63+
I assumed that the AEG would be better just on the basis that he equivalent looking zanussi doesn’t seem to have more than a year warranty with it?
other there any other options you’d suggest?
kil0brav0 wrote:
I assumed that the AEG would be better just on the basis that he equivalent looking zanussi doesn’t seem to have more than a year warranty with it?
Buy your AEG or Zanussi from John Lewis and it will come with a two year warranty.
Most machines these days are deeper than the usual 60cm due to the bigger drum capacities. You will need to research carefully all the options 😉
Don
Thanks Don.
don wrote:
Buy your AEG or Zanussi from John Lewis and it will come with a two year warranty.Am i being overly cautious seeking out a 5 year warranty or giving it more value than it actually is? i.e. does it sound like a better idea than it actually is?
don wrote:
Most machines these days are deeper than the usual 60cm due to the bigger drum capacities. You will need to research carefully all the options 😉I’m starting to see that :([IMG2=JSON]{“data-align”:”none”,”data-size”:”full”,”src”:”https://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/forums/core/core/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif”}[/IMG2]… any suggestions/recommendations?
Also, with Miele looking like its out the picture, what brands/series would you recommend I look for next? I though LG were the best of a bad bunch in the mid-tier but it looks like that may not be the case.
The Miele warranties are promotional ones and as such the prices remain the same whether they are on a five / ten year or not.
LG and Samsung as Dave indicates is more of a gamble.
I still like the Bosch machines but others would disagree 😉 the “bad bunch” sadly nowadays covers 95{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of what’s out there. We need the build quality to improve dramatically in order for repairs to be viable. In order for that to happen the prices would also need to increase massively. With the planet in it’s current state and jobs on the line etc I cannot see this happening anytime soon.
Don
Thanks again don, I didn’t realise that about Miele Warranties.
So really it seems to me that it’s sort of: ‘Miele is very good, anything else is pretty much a stab in the dark (except for *maybe* Bosch)’. which kind of pushes me to reason that the more warranty on a non-Miele the better, provided it doesn’t come at significant price increase that brings the cost into Miele territory?
Who knew choosing a washing machine could be so hard! before i found this site/forum I had no idea the state of play in the washing machine industry.
Ahh, but the 10 year freebee parts and labour warranty is surely for the promotional £1000 / £1200 models surely?
If I was in his shoes I would go for one of the 8kg Beko ( about £200 ) or a 8kg Zanussi Lindo 300 @ £300ish.
Would not touch Miele and would not touch Bosch. To be very frank it is a throwaway industry like it or not. The best you can do is just to go after value for money because there are better makes than these 2 suggested out there but the problem is a very poor spares supply and or often at a high price. With Beko and Zanussi you can easily get parts – hopefully you will not need any. These two have sealed tanks so that is a disadvantage BUT these two have better sealed tanks than Indesit and Hotpoint but equally you could say that Indesit and Hotpoint would have much more favorable programmes based on time to do a cycle than the Beko – you might reach pension age before the 60 degree cotton cycle finishes!. What I can say is Miele drum bearing official kits are a rip off and ditto Bosch bearing kits ( that fit a dwindling number of new models ) but just nowhere the high price Miele charge.
Whatever you buy it will be an impaired purchase one way or the other; I do think anyone actually ever wins in the game.
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