Dishwasher element & thermostat faulty the same time.

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  • #99093
    Rob Bell
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    My Belling (FDW150) dishwasher completes a cycle but the water stays cold throughout the cycle. I have taken out the flow through heater unit and found both the element and thermostat (on the same unit) faulty. My question why both should be faulty at the same time?

    #474959
    electrofix
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    you need to measure again on a low ohms scale

    if the element was zero ohms it would go bang

    Dave

    #474960
    Rob Bell
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    I did the ohms test and the readings did not change. I could change the unit but I am wondering why both the heater and thermostat are faulty at the same time?

    #474961
    electrofix
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    could see you getting that reading on a themostat but you are wrong about the heater

    if it had that reading it would blow fuses

    what scale are you using on th meter. you need a low ohms scale up to 200 ohms max

    if you use a high scale it will look like a 0 ohms reading

    Dave

    #474962
    Rob Bell
    Participant

    I set the meter to 200ohms scale and in testing both the heater and thermostat there was no reading change (display stayed at 1 )

    #474963
    tubafan
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    Is the ‘1’ at the left of the display, as that means ‘out of range’?
    🙂

    #474964
    electrofix
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    Rob Bell wrote:I set the meter to 200ohms scale and in testing both the heater and thermostat there was no reading change (display stayed at 1 )

    AH so its not 0 ohms, The 1 means in this case its over 200 ohms as that is the highest this setting will allow which means the heater is faulty

    now the thermostat may be a thermistor an not a stat so put meter on progressively higher scales and see if you get a reading

    when you get a reading warm it with your fingers and see if it changes

    Dave

    #474965
    Rob Bell
    Participant

    I agree the heater is faulty and yes you may be right it could be a thermistor. Tested the thermistor, as you said, I tried all the ohms settings but the meter reading never changes, stays at value 1 (on the left hand side). I cannot put my fingers on the thermistor as the sensor is tucked in a recessed tube. So guess that means the thermistor is also faulty and strangely the same time as the faulty heater?

    #474966
    electrofix
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    there is a possibility this may be your element
    https://shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/17476000005319-dishwasher-heating-element

    cant find thermistor but when you ask shop to confirm the above ask about this

    also they will need rest of numbers off unit something like 444444347

    Dave

    #474967
    Rob Bell
    Participant

    Thanks for the link that is the very element I want. I assumed the thermistor is on the side – it has two terminals (you can only see one in the photo) separated by black insulation tab.

    #474968
    electrofix
    Moderator

    that look more like a pressure switch that detects if the motor is running before turning on the heater

    dave

    #474969
    Rob Bell
    Participant

    I fitted a new heater (which has a new pressure switch) put it all back together but:

    On running a program you can hear the water enter then you can hear the water inlet stop and then the soap dispenser catch open

    but straight after the E4 error(flooding) alarm is sounded. Then the water is pumped out but program is stuck with E4 sounding. Looks like there is a water leak

    somewhere that fills the bottom tray and quite a lot of water ends on the kitchen floor. I checked the heater rubber hoses and the new jubilee clips I fitted but

    they look good and do no seem to leak. I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact I had the dishwasher upside down.

    #474970
    electrofix
    Moderator

    al you can do is run it with the sides off and see where it leaks

    Dave

    #474971
    Rob Bell
    Participant

    I guess I have no other option but as you say remove the side panels.

    #474972
    Rob Bell
    Participant

    Dear Dave, The water overflow (E4 error) was fixed by re-tightening the heater rubber hoses clips. Ran a dish wash program and the new heater worked ok (no E3 error), however a small leak appeared under the washer. After much thought my hunch was right – Initially ran the washer without any trays inserted, I inserted the top tray and this time the program completed with no leaks. Without the top tray the water ejected straight out onto the door (instead of into the spray arms) causing a small leak out the door seals. Thanks for your helpful advice it saved me forking hundreds on a new washer. – Rob

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