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Our trusty old Miele G686 SCI plus has started tripping the electrics. We’ve done some tests to try to work out where it’s hitting a problem. The pre-wash programme runs without a problem – it uses cold water. The short wash gets to 22 mins (out of 32 mins) then it trips. The water left in the bottom of the machine is warm. With lockdown restrictions relaxed I can now ask a service engineer to visit (couldn’t justify a dishwasher as an emergency repair.)
A few questions – what might be causing the problem? Would we be able to get hold of parts to fix it? Or, as it’s 18 years old and has been almost trouble-free, should I give myself permission to buy a new one as it owes me nothing? Miele 5000SC and Bosch SMV68MD01G look like reasonable candidates for a replacement. Thanks in anticipation.on choice between a miele and bosch the miele will always win . The boasch pump motor is a weak point these days, there are engineers out there who wont guarentee the motors if they need changing, they can be that bad
as for the tripping it could be a few things
is it plumbed to hot or cold water, trying to work out if the heater has been on or notDave
Cold water feed; heater worked in the short wash programme before it tripped, as the water left in the machine was warm.
could be a small leak. had one that did that, just a small drip buy was dripping on heater terminals
also with age there is a pressure sw on the motor, had them leak internally and trip rcd
Dave
Thanks, will ask a local engineer to quote for a visit. Information on my choice of possible replacements is much appreciated, cheers.
I think it`ll be the heating element to earth. What I would be inclined to do is to phone up Miele spares and check that the part is still available before calling anyone out as I have a feeling the part is not available. A lot of Miele parts disappear at a certain age which varies with the weather! In other words if that part is obsolete or if not ask how much the part is; you then have the information. Last old Miele I went to ( before I gave up on all dishwasher repairs ) the heater cost 200 quid but cannot remember whether that was the whole job or just the part ( £35 was my labour charge so subtract or add as you fancy ). I cannot help you with info on your Miele new potential machine purchase but as mentioned the curse of the Bosch is the wash / heater motor unit ( the heat pump ) which can fail and fail again so avoid Bosch like the Bubonic Plague if I was you. Basically boils down that I distrust all dishwashers whether cheap and certainly expensive ones. Maybe someone else on the site can help you more with your Miele question recommendation?
according to miele site it is still available but its £183 part no 5334751
but it may be other things
Dave
Thanks Andy and Dave, really helpful. Will make some calls and then decide whether to invest in trying to repair, or replacement.
Yep, not surprised as I supposed, another bloody Miele rip off price yet again. Frankly I do not know how these *ankers got away with it to be honest ( Siemens being another one ); I suppose it is because they can and do and 80 years ago did. There is a mystic and lore created around this brand rather like De Beers created for themselves ( I used to work in the diamond but mostly in colour gemstone testing but that is another story from 40 + years ago ) but it is nearly all bull manure if anyone took the trouble to scratch off the venere. Miele`s only saving grace is that nearly everything else is less reliable in comparison though most of that stuff, relative the retail cost, is just about worth fixing so long as your repairer is not a smart arse and is also trying to rip you off. And yet it dawned on me decades ago to avoid appliances or rather keep appliance ownership to the absolute minimum and that is 37 years on and counting: gas cooker ( for reliability, now soon to be doomed by the eco righteous wayward Leftie WOKE thug squad ), washing machine, microwave oven and perhaps a tumble.dryer, preferably all recon secondhand or even, shock horror, new but fairly cheap and affordable and, let`s be honest, expendable should things take a very serious nose dive. The number of posh houses ( big and expensive with a big and worrying mortgage, 2{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} interest rate rise before financial disaster type of worry ) go to where they have every mod con under the sun…and it all goes wrong = pay out and even more paying out; unbelievable amounts of time and expense: if it is not the under floor heating getting screwed one week next week is the upper range Bosch throwing a hissy fit, next week it`s the sodding dishwasher, then 2 weeks after that the eco friendless boiler yet again takes out its pcb, then the audio visual stuff ( thats TV to you and me or rather it would be if I actually had a TV which luckily, and by all accounts, I cleverly avoided )……………….and not a book in sight which I suppose is just as well, no time to read anything important execpt the Daily Oppessor`s ( that is the Daily Telegraph! ) share page and Property Weekly, so how sad is all that? The number of “BlueBlood`s” manor houses I have been to over the years where most stuff is secondhand, but that is good stuff secondhand, whether it be a humble Indesit washing machine or an ancient ASEA bought new and now has more string, bits of bamboo, unoriginal parts than original ( now obsolete ) parts to keep the old girl going and a cheap newish Chinese dishwasher is not that uncommon.Sadly I have yet to gain access to a day in their airy library but I`m working on that one!
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