Home › Forums › General Trade Forum › 2 Pole Voltage / Continuity testers.
- This topic has 24 replies, 6 voices, and was last updated 12 years, 11 months ago by
Specialist01269.
-
AuthorPosts
-
May 4, 2013 at 5:09 pm #75313
Specialist01269
ParticipantJust wondering if anyone else carries / uses 1 of these for Basic checking & fault finding ? I’ve allways carried 1 of these for proving Dead etc on Electrical systems. Been using it for a while on appliance repairs, It’s quicker than getting the meter out just for basic testing.
May 4, 2013 at 8:20 pm #394489twicknix
ParticipantRe: 2 Pole Voltage / Continuity testers.
Pictures would be nice so I can identify it. I have different names for all the testing equipments.
I have the “Yellow” box which is an insulation tester, the “black” pouch is the multimeter and “net” pouch which is the analogue multimeter. Then there’s the red stick is voltage pen and black cylinder with yellow band is the torch.
May 4, 2013 at 8:46 pm #394490Specialist01269
ParticipantRe: 2 Pole Voltage / Continuity testers.
Hi mate: Just google Steinel Mastercheck 3.2, that’s the 1 I carry in my service kit. LED voltage indication up to 400v & continuity test up to 300k. Not specifically bought for appliance repair but good none the less, still carry my Analogue, Clamp, Digi & Megger etc so it doesn’t actually cut down on what I carry just speeds up basic Fault Finding a bit & ideal in dark places.
May 6, 2013 at 7:40 pm #394491twicknix
ParticipantRe: 2 Pole Voltage / Continuity testers.
Had a look at the two pole tester, I do not think it would add anything to my life as I would not know how to use it correctly which could be very dangerous. As you are already a qualified sparky, you are well placed to use this equipment.
I rarely do “live” testing but having said that, you need to be conscious of what you are doing especially with live wire. I think there may have been one or two occasions that I could use this equipment but like you said you found it quicker, I did it the slow way with different equipments and still fix the appliance. So this was why I doubt it would improve my life.
There’s one thing I know that will improve my life, clamp meter which I have not got yet. It is on my list of things to buy.
May 6, 2013 at 8:07 pm #394492Specialist01269
ParticipantRe: 2 Pole Voltage / Continuity testers.
Hey Twick don’t knock yourself, your using what your used to & fixing appliances. It does’nt really do anything you can’t do with a Multimeter, except for testing Dead which you should’nt really use a Multimeter for. But for me i’m so used to using it that it just speeds things up a little bit, not so important on Domestic but when your in the middle of a Commercial kitchen or in a Meat plant where it’s costing them money then every little bit helps.
If you just want a basic clamp meter for appliances, they’ve got 1 on the bay. Item number 330811136387 at £7.99
May 9, 2013 at 12:16 pm #394493twicknix
ParticipantRe: 2 Pole Voltage / Continuity testers.
I ordered the Clamp meter as you recommended. It’s not what I had in mind as it appears to only work for one conductive lead, which means it is no good to clamp it around the mains lead of a washing machine or dishwasher because there are two conductive leads excluding earth. The manual says it is impossible to make measurements when two or three conductors are clamped at the same time.
The one I saw at the trade show in Coventry, the guy demonstrated the clamp meter over a extension lead which the computers were plugged in and powered up. The clamp meter showed the flow of current in terms of wattage and voltage. That’s the one I wanted as it will help me to determine that the washing machine/dishwasher heater is working by monitoring the flow of the current in terms of wattage.
The one I had does not do that, bit disappointed to be honest as I have wasted £10. 🙁 Are you able to recommend another type of clamp meter?
May 9, 2013 at 1:38 pm #394494Specialist01269
ParticipantRe: 2 Pole Voltage / Continuity testers.
Hi mate: You have’nt wasted £10.00, all you need to do is make up a short extension lead. Cut a slit in the outer sheath of the flex about 50-75mm long & pull just the live core through the slit, put a cable tie either end of the slit to stop it opening up any more & job done. When you want to check current draw on an appliance just plug it into the lead & put your clamp around the exposed Live conductor.
Think that’s what most of us do & you don’t need an expensive clamp, I’ve been doing it this way for years and never had a problem. Why do you need to know wattage rather than current draw ?May 9, 2013 at 1:51 pm #394495twicknix
ParticipantRe: 2 Pole Voltage / Continuity testers.
Specialist01269 wrote:Hi mate: You have’nt wasted £10.00, all you need to do is make up a short extension lead. Cut a slit in the outer sheath of the flex about 50-75mm long & pull just the live core through the slit, put a cable tie either end of the slit to stop it opening up any more & job done. When you want to check current draw on an appliance just plug it into the lead & put your clamp around the exposed Live conductor.
Think that’s what most of us do & you don’t need an expensive clamp, I’ve been doing it this way for years and never had a problem. Why do you need to know wattage rather than current draw ?Cheers, will give it a go. Looks a bit of a faff but if that’s the only way to do it on the cheap then I will give it a go. I think we are talking the same thing as wattage and current draw – a case of watching the numbers going up when the current draws, wash motor low current then heater comes on high currents meaning higher numbers.
I think I have a spare lead somewhere, oh yeah that old mains lead from a Bosch washer in the van, will cut it off and put a socket on the end of it.
As for pulling the live wire out, I presume you mean the brown one? The slit – near the plug or socket or in the middle? Do you strengthen it by insulating tape to make it hard wearing? How long the flex from the plug to the socket?
May 9, 2013 at 3:16 pm #394496Specialist01269
ParticipantRe: 2 Pole Voltage / Continuity testers.
Hi mate: Extension lead only has to be about 12 to 18 inches long, does’nt matter where the slit is but In the middle is normally easier. Yes pull the Brown wire through the slit, if you want to strengthen it then you can give it a turn of tape but i’ve never found the need to & been using the same lead for a few years without any damage to the Live. The lead I use is made up of 1.5mm 3 core so can be used for all appliances.
Current & Wattage: Once you’ve used it a few times you’ll know the sort of Current draw you can expect from different things kicking in: Water valves, Pump, Heater & Motor etc. If you really want to know the current draw to expect from say a 1500w element then just do the calc: You know the nominal voltage say 230v & wattage 1500w so 1500 / 230= 6.6 amps approx. If you take a look on the forum you’ll find a good little article that Martin wrote a while back on Basic use of a clamp meter, well worth a read. If you can’t find it then pm me your email & i’ll send it to you.May 9, 2013 at 4:24 pm #394497Martin114
ParticipantRe: 2 Pole Voltage / Continuity testers.
I know its a lot more money but I use a Megger MMC850 Multi Core – Single Core Clamp meter. It is so convenient being able to clamp around the whole flex especially where sockets are either not accessible or may be hard wired in. Great for indicating when the heater powers up on machines.
May 9, 2013 at 5:14 pm #394498Specialist01269
ParticipantRe: 2 Pole Voltage / Continuity testers.
Hi Martin: Totally agree with you it’s a lovely bit of kit, but for general domestic appliance repairs just too expensive & still would’nt give the wattage readings he wanted. For what Twick wants then the meter he’s just bought will serve him well.
May 10, 2013 at 8:38 am #394499twicknix
ParticipantRe: 2 Pole Voltage / Continuity testers.
Martin114 wrote:I know its a lot more money but I use a Megger MMC850 Multi Core – Single Core Clamp meter. It is so convenient being able to clamp around the whole flex especially where sockets are either not accessible or may be hard wired in. Great for indicating when the heater powers up on machines.
I agree with you there and it what I was looking for but like you said a lot more money. I will have to do plenty of repairs to do justify high costs of equipment. I admit that it is a bit of a luxury. As for working out dishwasher heater, I use the infra red temperature (£5 from Maplins) because you can open the door to interrupt the cycle. The washing machine is a different matter as it’s hard to tell due to low water consumption and the time it takes to heat it up so that’s where the clamp meter comes into it. I will try out the cheaper version and see how I got on.
May 10, 2013 at 2:35 pm #394500Martin
ParticipantRe: 2 Pole Voltage / Continuity testers.
twicknix wrote:There’s one thing I know that will improve my life, clamp meter which I have not got yet. It is on my list of things to buy.
A basic necessity for us in the trade Twixi
For a useful download on how best to use one click HERE 😀
May 11, 2013 at 3:00 pm #394501martinm
ParticipantRe: 2 Pole Voltage / Continuity testers.
one of these is good
http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electro … 641921&kw={keyword}May 11, 2013 at 3:17 pm #394502Allsorts
ParticipantRe: 2 Pole Voltage / Continuity testers.
martinm wrote:one of these is good
http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electro … 641921&kw={keyword}I have a couple of these and have used them for a few years… They do watts and amps but they do not do earth leakage.
George
-
AuthorPosts
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
