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  • #185447
    eastlmark
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    Re: Bespoke kitchen ding dong!

    Its a way of life that we just have to get used to if we want the work and there is a lot of it out there. Adjust pricing to suit an get on with it.

    The “call me back when you get it out” way will more than likely result in a wasted and not charged for call with the customer going elsewhere.

    #185448
    iadom
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    Re: Bespoke kitchen ding dong!

    So would you take a hammer and chisel to expensive floor tiles that are preventing the machine from being moved Mark? I judge every job on its merits, or complete lack of them in 90{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of cases. If there is the slightest chance of me damaging any part of the installation or indeed hurting myself, I will not attempt it. I do not have the facility to repair floor coverings, cupboard doors, plumbing etc.

    A picture of a kitchen fitter would be my ideal dartboard target. 😈

    #185449
    fasetester
    Participant

    Re: Bespoke kitchen ding dong!

    so in other words there is no short cuts or tips for easy removal of built in appliances just hard graft some times there is no easy way the kitchen fitters and tilers must think the will never have to be removed and is there any kind of tool for ajusting the plastic legs on these appliances 🙁 thanks fasetester.

    #185450
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Bespoke kitchen ding dong!

    fasetester wrote:so in other words there is no short cuts or tips for easy removal of built in appliances just hard graft some times there is no easy way the kitchen fitters and tilers must think the will never have to be removed and is there any kind of tool for ajusting the plastic legs on these appliances 🙁 thanks fasetester.

    All the short cuts have already been taken by the complete morons who install these kitchens most of the time. 😥

    Most legs or feet have a hexagon shape that you may be able to get an adjustable spanner on. It varies so much from model to model, some will spin up very easily by hand if you can relieve a bit of weight off them, some get rusted and siezed in no time at all. I have used bits of old carpet, sprayed the floor with furniture polish, slid thin sheets of lino or wood under them. Necessity is the mother of invention as they say. 🙂

    #185451
    eastlmark
    Moderator

    Re: Bespoke kitchen ding dong!

    iadom wrote:So would you take a hammer and chisel to expensive floor tiles that are preventing the machine from being moved Mark? I judge every job on its merits, or complete lack of them in 90{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of cases. If there is the slightest chance of me damaging any part of the installation or indeed hurting myself, I will not attempt it. I do not have the facility to repair floor coverings, cupboard doors, plumbing etc.

    A picture of a kitchen fitter would be my ideal dartboard target. 😈

    Jim, i was responding to Bill Ellis who seemed to suggest that he wouldnt remove any built in appliance just for the sake of winding the legs down/ disonnecting whatever. And that its unlikely the customer will pay you for a call when no work has been done for that reason.
    Of course i wouldnt take a hammer to floor tiles! But there again cannot think of an instance of having too despite a large part of my work being build ins.

    Every build in is unique, so there can be no tool to aid removal. I seem to remember a certain UKW director expalining he used a hacksaw blade on a stick to cut through rear legs!

    Dont get me started on island hoods though……

    #185452
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: Bespoke kitchen ding dong!

    We must have the monopoly on bozo fitters round here. I would say that on only one in ten fitted kitchens that I see, have the installers given the slightest thought to future accessibility. The most recent one I refused to do was a dishwasher installed tight up against a wall near a door. When I returned after the customer had removed it himself it was like a scene from The Shining, he had sawn off part of the door frame and chiselled into the floor in front of the machine to get it out. 😯

    #185453
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Trust me, you haven’t got a monopoly on “bozo” fitters.

    I notice that you’re being nice to them. 😉

    K.

    #185454
    iadom
    Moderator

    kwatt wrote:Trust me, you haven’t got a monopoly on “bozo” fitters.

    I notice that you’re being nice to them. 😉

    K.

    I did stumble accross a forum for these braindead, incompetent, useless, specimens of humanity and to this day I don’t know how I restrained myself from posting in the kitchen fitting ‘problems’ forum.

    Darned if I can remember where it was now though. 😥

    #185455
    Penguin45
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    Re: Bespoke kitchen ding dong!

    screwfix.com can be quite entertaining…….

    Look, I’ll get the the kickboard off, I’ll release the securing screws and hoses if required, wind the legs up if need be – but if I need to do more, it’s not a skill group I’ve got. Basically, I just haven’t got time……

    Chris.

    #185456
    maltheviking
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    Re: Bespoke kitchen ding dong!

    iadom wrote: I would say that on only one in ten fitted kitchens that I see, have the installers given the slightest thought to future accessibility.

    You are a lucky boy then, one in ten. I cannot remember when I last saw a correct installation, sorry I see my own every day 😉 😆

    We have some very expensive kitchen companies in this area, I have made a point of calling to see one or two of them to request that they install the appliances better to facilitate repairs and service, I was just told that access to them was my problem not theirs.

    Every time I do a repair where these companies have done poor work I ask the householder to give them ear ache, who’s problem is it. 😉 one day they may improve their standards, pigs may fly

    Don’t try this at home, if you are planning to get any work out of these kitchen companies 😥

    #185457
    Goatboy
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    GB senior is really upset now 🙁

    He’s got to go back to a dishwasher that surrounded (on 4 sides) by that expanding foam stuff :bang:

    The plinths are stuck solid either side of it, and it won’t bunge! There’s so much of that foam stuff about, that whoever install the dishwasher has had to cut out a chunk of it, from under the appliance, so the door opens 😕

    #185458
    Bill
    Participant

    Re: Bespoke kitchen ding dong!

    Bill Ellis will wind up legs as far as they will go, but numties that fitted the unit and the a NEW floor fitted means you cannot get it out without doing damage to himself will not go any further.

    BILL ELLIS :scot:

    #185459
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    Re: Bespoke kitchen ding dong!

    Had one today, been there three times already and the washer isn’t accessible.

    So the guy kicks off with the kitchen co. and they are sending someone out to remove the machine for repair. They’ve got to remove the worktop to get it out. Then, it became apparent, they’re going to put it back.

    So I says to the chap, “and what are you going to do if it has to come out in three or fours years again, or when you have to replace it.”

    His reply? “Yeah, I thought that may have been an issue as well but I’ll just hope it doesn’t break again.”

    Punchline: It’s a Siltal. 😆

    K.

    #185460
    maltheviking
    Participant

    Re: Bespoke kitchen ding dong!

    Built in D/W in my village. When I get there I discover that that the DW won’t lift high enough to get over the new tiled floor even when raising the legs. The lady of the house informes me that her husband had laid the floor and it should be alright as he does this for a living 😆 Ok I said can you get him to get the DW out and I will call back tomorrow.
    Next day I called back to find the DW was standing out from the units, on investigating I find the plonker had cut the legs off to get it out. Then I noticed the work surface above the DW was damaged to which she “shrugged” her shoulders.
    I completed the repair, fitted longer hoses to it as well and suggested to her that “hubby” will have to refit it, no problems she said he is going to fit it onto blocks of wood so it will come out again.

    Several months later I called to see a friend of mine who lives two doors from the floor tiler. My friend says to watch out, the plonker is telling everyone in the street that I had damaged his kitchen and I was a lazy b*****d and usless for not being able to get the DW out.

    As they say “dammed if you do dammed if you don,t”
    I feel sorry for his wife, I have known her for years and she is OK unfortunatly for her she will now have to find someone else to do any repairs cos I ain’t

    #185461
    Oldtog
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    Re: Bespoke kitchen ding dong!

    Many years ago I attended a Servis quartz [remember those]. I had to drag it out from a dip [that is debatable] in the floor. When I questioned the customer she replied “ the kitchen installer admitted he had not allowed room for the machine to be refitted because he had allowed the correct height for the work tops, then laid the floor tiles [he he 😆 now stop laughing 😆 ], so when he went to fit the machine back it would not fit [he he haa haa 😆 😆 😆 , oops sorry just makes me laugh remembering this] so he then [giggle 😆 oh I must stop this] he then with a club hammer and cold chisel :rotfl: cut out a hole for the machine to fit into [sorry, giggle giggle :rotfl: ]. Oh boy what a mess on the floor, I cant comment on the condition of the machine. Sorry have to go now I just cant stop laughing.

    OT

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