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Re: Bosch Dishwasher SKT 5102 table top model horrendous noi
It probably wouldn’t have fitted anyway: they like changing fixtures and fittings!
I’ll also bet that your new machine takes an awful lot longer than the old one, and thus achieves better ratings for energy/washing etc.
The old Hotpoint was indeed quite noisy compared to modern machines, but you have to consider where a tabletop machine is situated. If placed on an open countertop, then more noise is going to escape as opposed to being enclosed by kitchen cabinetry.
The newer Bosch might have a different motor, but it is still the same basic shell design as that used decades before. I suspect the only way to reduce the noise would be to redesign the machine.
Sometimes I think Which? gets its priorities wrong.
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Trilobite
You’re right. Our new machine does take a lot longer than the old one. It has five programmes, the old one had only three. We always run the new mcahine on the Eco programme, switch position 3 o’clock. We ran the old one with the switch in the same position. The initial wash cycle seems to be about the same; the extra time seems to be in the last cycle.
However, now that we don’t have the overfoaming, the new machine is no noiser than the old one. With the overfoaming, we could hear it in the lliving room, our bedroom (both on the other side of our large house from the kitchen) and even half way down the garden.
We used to run the old one daily after breakfast. With the horrendous noise we changed to running it the evening as we watched TV in the living room. Even so, we could still hear it. Now, we can’t hear it at all.
We have long experience of dishwashers. We started many years ago with the original Colston without insulatlion, then updated to the new Colston with insulation, then to a Husquvarna (Electrolux), then the old Bosch. Because of the layout of our kitchen, we can only have a table top model. There’s not much choise of models but I am now quite happy with our new Bosch.
I have written to Bosch and to Which. Will let you know their response.
Woodey
Re: Bosch Dishwasher SKT 5102 table top model horrendous noi
When did you get the ‘original’ Colston?
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Trilobite
When did we get the ‘original’ Colston?
I can’t remember the exact date. We married in 1955 and I recall that I felt that washing dishes by hand was a chore and that a dishwasher was not only easier but more hygenic because the water was hotter than you could stand with hand washing.
I’m sure that we bought the original rounded-top Colston before 1960 but don’t know the exact year. It did a good job but eventually we replaced it with the new square-box model, probably the same mechanics but quieter thanks to the insulation.
By the way, our first washing machine was a twin-tub Acme, bought on the strength of a review in Which (I still have all the Which magazines since 1957). It had two separate motors and was really heavy. It took two men to carry it into the house. They said that the Hoover twin tub was much lighter. Unlike a Hoover, the Acme did not dance across the floor. It served us well, especially for nappies which, in winter, we dried on a Flatley drier (delivered by Mr Flatley himself). When we replaced the Acme with a Hotpoint top-loader we passed it on to an aunt who used it for many more years.
Acme went out of business because their machine was too good for the market. People bought the cheaper Hoover, even though it was nowhere near as good value for money (in the long run) as the Acme.
Why did you want to know when we bought the original Colston?
Woodey
Re: Bosch Dishwasher SKT 5102 table top model horrendous noi
Just curious:
My grandparents purchased a Rolls “Rapide” twintub in the early 60’s. I gather that Rolls and Colston merged, then later went bankrupt.
Ariston swallowed up the Colston brand; then it, in turn, became part of Merloni (now Indesit).
I remember seeing a clip of an old “Sweeney” episode, where John Thaw’s lady-friend washed his gun in the dishwasher! I think the model was a Colston, circa 1973-ish?
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I can proudly boast that until he recently moved from Ewelme Down House (more like a castle really!), THE Mr Charles Colston was one of my customers…a very pleasant chap who had two lovely Bosch made Hotpoint dishwashers in his kitchen 😉
Ohhh….he did still have one of his own table-top units but that was in the summerhouse by the pool 😆
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clivejameson wrote:I can proudly boast that until he recently moved from Ewelme Down House (more like a castle really!), THE Mr Charles Colston was one of my customers…a very pleasant chap who had two lovely Bosch made Hotpoint dishwashers in his kitchen 😉
Ohhh….he did still have one of his own table-top units but that was in the summerhouse by the pool 😆
Funny you should mention houses like castles, around 1970, when I worked for Hotpoint I got a call to a huge old mansion just off the A57 on the outskirts of Glossop. It was owned by a Mr W.H.Smith, yes that one. I was ushered into what looked like the old stables to be confronted by a new Hotpoint Empress ( that dates me a bit I know). There was nothing actually wrong with it, unfortunately Mrs Smith who by then must have been in her late 70’s just didn’t have the strength to close the wringer mechanism, amazing to think that she was still doing the washing herself when he was a multimillionaire 😯
Jim.Re: Bosch Dishwasher SKT 5102 table top model horrendous noi
Name droppers! 😀
Whatever happened to John Bloom of Rolls. Is he still alive?
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Trilobite wrote:Whatever happened to John Bloom of Rolls. Is he still alive?
What?
You’ll have to speak up, this ruddy tabletop dishwasher is making such a racket…….!!!!! :rolls:
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Martin wrote:
Trilobite wrote:
Whatever happened to John Bloom of Rolls. Is he still alive?What?
You’ll have to speak up, this ruddy tabletop dishwasher is making such a racket…….!!!!! :rolls:
I said: (Shouts) WHATEVER HAPPENED TO JOHN BLOOM OF ROLLS. IS HE STILL ALIVE? 😀
Re: Bosch Dishwasher SKT 5102 table top model horrendous noi
I would guess there is a good chance he is, Google doesn’t come up with a great deal, in fact your post on here is on the third page. Reading this rather lurid article gives his DOB as 1931 so he would be in his mid 70’s now.
‘Born in Stepney in 1931, the son of a Polish immigrant tailor, Bloom hit the jackpot in 1958 when he had the idea of buying washing machines from Holland for £29 and selling them directly to British housewives for £50. ‘
In four years, he had amassed a fortune of more than £4million, and owned a palatial home in Mayfair,
Not heard anything about him for years.Jim.
Re: Bosch Dishwasher SKT 5102 table top model horrendous noi
How did we get from Bosch Dishwashers to Rolls washing machines?
Didn’t John Bloom buy the Rolls Razor company? That reminds me that in 1947, doing national service in Aden, I bought a Rolls Razor.
No, not the traditional cut throat Rolls with the special strop, but a device like an electric razor with a spring loaded handle on one side. You squeezed the handle to make the cutter oscillate. A flywheel inside kept the cutter going until you squeezed the handle again.
I used it for several years then traded it in for an electric razor. Now, I wish I hadn’t. It could be worth a fortune on Ebay.
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I think that the two companies became known as Rolls-Colston, until the bankruptcy.
Rolls did have razors. Apparently my Gran’s brother persuaded her and my Grandfather to purchase the twintub. On doing so, Great Uncle was given a free gift of a razor. Grandparents received a Rolls fan-heater as their free gift.
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Iadom
Are you sure that your W H Smith was related to the newsagent family?
The business was founded in 1792 by H W (Henry Walton) Smith but renamed after his second son William Henry who expanded the business by opening bookstalls on railway stations.
When he retired his son, WH Smith II, took over. He later became an MP, was appointed First Lord of the Admiralty and lampooned by W S Gilbert as ‘Ruler of the Queen’s navee’ in HMS Pinafore.
He died in 1891. His widow became Viscountess Hambleden. Her son and grandson inherited the title. When the latter died in 1948 his brother, the Hon David Smith became chairman.
So if your W H Smith was a member of the family, who was his father? Presumably not an eldest son of an eldest son of a viscount?
I’m curious because I live about 7 miles from Glossop. In the late 50s I worked at John Walton of Glossop (owned by Tootals). Later in the 70s & 80s I worked in Sheffield and drove over the A57 Snake road every weekday. I don’t recall a huge old mansion off the A57. Whereabouts is/was it?
Sorry I’ve digressed from dishwashers. I’m just a glutton for useless information.
Woodey
Re: Bosch Dishwasher SKT 5102 table top model horrendous noi
You have to remember I am going back a long way, 1969/71 ish.
My information came from the local Curry’s shop. In those days we had a very close working relationship with Curry’s, the staff used to be great. That was before Dixons took over. 😥 They sold the machine to this person and assured me they were part of the WH Smith dynasty, might have been the David you refer to.
Just had a look in my Manchester A to Z and then opened up Google Earth. If you don’t have Google Earth I strongly recommend you get it, brilliant even if most of the UK photos are years out of date.
I think I have located the property, called Moorfield, off the road called Derbyshire Level, off the A57, map ref in A to Z is page 159 H4.
Google Earth position is,53°25’50.41″N,1°55’47.46″W
Jim.
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