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My Missus says!
The machine washes the clothes fine. Then when it comes to rinsing the clothes you have to nudge the program dial along to take in the cold water to enable rinsing. Then at the end of the rinse cycle, you have to again nudge the dial along to enable water to be taken in to complete the final rinse as the fabric softener is added. The machine then has to be turned off and left for a while (15 minutes), then set to spin only to enable the clothes to be spun. If the machine is left to complete its full cycle without any intervention, the clothes are sometimes rinsed but the fabric softener is not added and no spin takes place. The water is pumped away and you are left with a pile of wet washing!
The brushes have been checked and these are fine (they were replaced about 18 months ago). The machine pumps out the water and this has been tested by adding water and pumping it out with no clothes in the machine. The filter has been checked and this is clear. Could this be a sensor failure? Any suggestions appreciated.
Re: Bosch WFF2000GB/01 – Gone Senile?!?!
Forgot to add that sometimes we get the x4 flashing pre-wash light.
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Whilst the pump does work the chances are it is clapped out and sticks. If there is any lateral movement of the Impellor at all that then confirms my suspicion. Replace the pump!
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Cheers Martin,
I checked out for that movement you mentioned and sure enough the impeller was rattling around and it also appears that water has got inside the bearing housing.
So using the ukwhitegoods site i went ahead and ordered the composite pump PMP244 this arrived Friday but with a houseful of kids over the weekend left till this morning so as to fit in peace & quiet. Warning to all – this pump certainly has nothing to do with the WFF2000GB/01 so have had to reassemble including worn out pump.
She not happy!
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Soapybod13 wrote:Warning to all – this pump certainly has nothing to do with the WFF2000GB/01 so have had to reassemble including worn out pump.
The PMP244 is indeed the wrong pump and listed in error in the UKW shop. What you should order instead is THIS ONE 😀
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Martin wrote:The PMP244 is indeed the wrong pump and listed in error in the UKW shop.
Thanks for getting back so quickly Martin.
That’s real handy ukwhitegoods listing the wrong part! – I wonder if they will refund me for the postage and my wasted time – surely it is not tooo much to ask that a spares company should list their replacement parts correctly???
Also i note with regret that your suggestion is thee times the price of their original offering – not your fault obviously.
She who must be obeyed furious! 👿 Tin hat on.
Soapy13.
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Soapybod13 wrote:That’s real handy ukwhitegoods listing the wrong part! – I wonder if they will refund me for the postage and my wasted time – surely it is not tooo much to ask that a spares company should list their replacement parts correctly???
I think if you send an email to Dave at this address: spares@ukwhitegoods.co.uk explaining the error he most likely will come to some ‘arrangement’ with you on this. 😀
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Martin wrote: I think if you send an email to Dave explaining the error he most likely will come to some ‘arrangement’ with you on this. 😀
That would be handy – but while I’m waiting for him to come back to me can someone explain why when the original pump although laboured, pumps out 99.9{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of the water and yet fails to enact the spin, but if you switch off and leave for half an hour or so and then reselect spin it goes first time.
So how does an electronically isolated pump sat in its own little vacuum (now flooded due to bearing failure) send a message to the system ❓
I ask this question on behalf of many i suspect, as it would seem that so many machines suffer this issue but throw a variety of symptoms before i dare say many unnecessarily end up at the tip!
Soapybod13
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Soapybod13 wrote:That would be handy – but while I’m waiting for him to come back to me can someone explain why when the original pump although laboured, pumps out 99.9{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of the water and yet fails to enact the spin, but if you switch off and leave for half an hour or so and then reselect spin it goes first time.
So how does an electronically isolated pump sat in its own little vacuum (now flooded due to bearing failure) send a message to the system ❓
The tired and worn out pump labours through a series of rinses before the final spin. During that time the pump stator overheats and compromises it’s performance even more to a point where the programme sequence ‘times out’ and usually that happens during the final rinse. By then allowing the drain pump to cool for 30 mins or so and reset to a spin only cycle it will perform as if there we nothing wrong.
HTH? 😀
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Martin wrote:Allowing the drain pump to cool for 30 mins or so and reset to a spin only cycle it will perform as if there were nothing wrong.
HTH? 😀
Cheers Martin,
Maybe i spoke tooo soon – looks like i’m relying on Dave now as having cobbled together a couple of washes today the leaving to settle for 30 mins trick no longer seems to work.
C’est La Vie! 😥
Soapybod13.
Re: Bosch WFF2000GB/01 – Gone Senile?!?!
Check the heater 24 oms and check the pressure chamber will be blocked due to the age of the w/m.The machine detected a fault gone to the end of program and just pumped out.
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mase101 wrote:check the pressure chamber
Is checking the pressure chamber easy?
As for getting right the pump from ukwhitegoods that is proving to me a nightmare!!!! Two weeks on and 2 virtually identical pumps that bear no resemblance to what was photographed and requested.
Should have gone for a new machine :boops:
Soapybod2013.
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Soapybod13 wrote:Is checking the pressure chamber easy? .
Yes, it is just clipped into position, easy to remove, clean and reposition.
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Martin wrote:The PMP244 is indeed the wrong pump and listed in error in the UKW shop. What you should order instead is THIS ONE 😀
Sorry guys – Essay mode on!
Positive and negative news from Soapybod13. My machine now works good as new……MIRACLE……although goodness knows what the PMP244 pump was intended for!?!?
Owing to the fact that having supplied UKwhitegoods with several pictures from all angles they managed to send me exactly the same pump as originally incorrectly supplied a week earlier – My tother half went into meltdown – 2 weeks of washing hell and no light at the end of the tunnel so it seemed.
I was told by UKWG to return both pumps for a full refund…….No sorry it’s our mistake!!! – I instead sent over another picture that got me a reply last Saturday that it was recognized and stocks would be checked MONDAY.
Now FRIDAY still no word………..USELESS!!!! :rolls:
But needs must as they say – As i’m sure Martin knows only too well my machine has a 40mm sump connection and single outlet no bleed pipe. So i built up the 30mm sump of the 244 with some reinforced radiator piping to 40mm and blanked of the unwanted bleed connection with a bit of 10mm clear pipe blocked off with a bolt at one end and held with a couple of jubilee clips. Voila!
I just hope everything stays in place and that UKWG get to update their listings.
Thanks for your help Martin – two washes and as good as new – seems that she must have been missing the rinse spinning for some time…….as you said – It’s the pump.
PS. The pressure switch was as good as new no sign of any blockages.
Soapybod13.
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