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Re: Can anyone confirm…
NESN terminating with Electrue? Will be interesting if it is that way round. If so I think we should buy someone a drink.
Can any one confirm the White Knight divorce from Service Force, they are denying it at Slough.
Very interesting if NESN terminated Electrue and a hell of a gamble on JT’s part as well. I respect the chance he’s taking but he won’t succeed if what I think he’s up to, he really is up to. 😕
The WK thing I heard some snippets on today, basically EAC are increasing their share of the work, whatever that means. They are also supposed to be looking at direct diect agents as well. So that’s a bit of a mess really.
K.
kwatt wrote:The WK thing I heard some snippets on today, basically EAC are increasing their share of the work, whatever that means. They are also supposed to be looking at direct diect agents as well. So that’s a bit of a mess really.
K.
Problem with that is Sub Assignment as well as too many slices of the cake.
I could work with Paul Greenberg, but by the time it gets down to us, there will be bugger all left.
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kwatt wrote:That NESN have indeed served notice to Electrue? 😯
As it was me that was told this, no it isn’t confirmed as yet, apparently JT has given notice or terminated on the grounds that the admin has been taken away from NESN (did they ever actualy do any admin 😕 ) and if so, he/they will no longer honour the contract.
We’ll see.
Dave.
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DP from you know where asked for and was sent the latest copy on NETWORK- DASA today.Late PM today to be exact.
CO incident !!!!???????
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ted wrote:DP from you know where asked for and was sent the latest copy on NETWORK- DASA today.Late PM today to be exact
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Coincidence indeed then 😉
Dave
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Oh them jungle drums do beat fast dont they!
In a nut shell.
There was a large member meeting on Thursday. Which was well attended by a lot of old agents and new.(most of them being large service providers). An issue was raised about the Electrue system where the agents on it have lost post codes. (this is fact ask JP and Me).
A majority decision was made to come off there system from Monday. As I see it only to protect NESN agents workload,especially as a lot of agents have recruited engineers and invested a lot of money.
As u may know Electrue (Ele) have been setting new agents up in every area. This decsicion will affect their new agents as NESN will take back control of the job.
JT obviously has other ideas. But the majority decision was made against a work provider (Ele) and from memory I do not ever recall a large group of sevice agents ganging up on a workprovider (albeit with an other work providers blessing).
In the short term I cannot see NESN or the agents their keeping the coverplan work, but would u want to if u were being shit on by Ele /coverplan or RF. U only have to remind people about the mastercare contract of the past and who ran it. and look at who’s running it now and what he is doing ( 200 agents nationwide ? )
If u want to be an Ele agent outside of the NESN agreement wear a big hat because u will be shit on. (IMHO)
P.S. that doesn’t mean I wont consider it at the right price!
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NICE TRY BUT SO STUPID OF ALL THE AGENTS WHO HAVE TAKEN PART
You have all been used by nesn to allow them to use you all as an excuse for the distruption they are now trying to cause to the ele mast contract
Of course nesn are squeaky because they are following the agents wishes but who instigated this thread…Bet it wasnt flipper or jp but none other than an NESN minnion.
STUPID STUPID STUPID
and thats putting it as mild as I can.
YOU WILL HAVE TO CHOSE NOW BETWEEN NESN AND ELECTRUE AND DONT EVER THINK THAT ELECTRUE WILL FORGIVE YOUR STUPIDITY
ted
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I saw that , But why should I lose area because Ele M/C and RF want control and a cheap price for doing the job, thats the only reason for setting up 200 agents, so thay can threaten each agent by pulling the work from the individual. As u know ther are people out there who will do the work for less.
If they want the job doing properly they should respect us, and not go behind our backs putting other agents in our area, You more than anyone should know I will work for them but I will not have the piss taken out of me from the start, just as you wouldn’t.Better the devil u know.
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There’s a ton of work to come from the ele/mast tie up….. the opportunity to be part does not lie with NESN.If you want to work for £35.00 …..try asking for more………They need us badly ..right now…
Whatever you do, reflect on your descision 12 months from now and weep..ted
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Okay, let’s bear in mind that neither party is whiter than white and neither have a good history either on the management side of things. With that in mind this is what I can see happening…
JT has used the agents as pawns in his political power struggle since there’s no way in hell that all those agents sat in a room are going to all go the same way as JT needs. Want more evidence of that, okay…
This just “happens” to occur in line with the busiest period of the year with holidays looming large. JT just happens to take action the following day and it’s spread about like jam on toast. The fact that it was a *MEMBER* decision is made very clear to all and sundry, so JT is in the clear as he’s only following the wishes of the members. The national meeting was called at a time not normally for a national NESN meeting, noramlly that’s in the summer.
Coincidence, I think not, this was a well laid and executed plan and like lemmings the agents all fell for the bait which is hardly surprising given the current climate, they are not to blame they’ve been very well manipulated.
This is a power struggle between Electrue and NESN, the agents are just cannon fodder and being used as such.
NESN is one issue and they’re not doing you any favours, merely protecting their own, Electrue are doing likewise and, quite frankly, neither could give a flying toss about their agents as this is all about the money.
In the end this manuvour by NESN will do the agents no good whatsoever, Electrue will simply “buy” agents with a higher rate and they will defect when needed. Those they can replace will be replaced by people they can manipulate easier.
End of sermon. 😉
K.
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Yes, I can now confirm that NESN will no longer take any calls on the coverplan contract as of monday morning.
JT has brainwashed a few larger members (and I have spoken to a few “small members”) who were not even invited to the Walsall hypnotherapy session, odd that isn’t it ?
If the overlord who is almighty in SOS thinks for one minute he can take the piss out of DSG then he is sadly mistaken. He may as well employ someone right now to remove his bollocks from the vice where they will end up.
Call for the men in white coats for the MD TT driver. Sorry Managing Director Audi Total Twat driver 😉
Dave.
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Let’s try this while sober! 😉
Flipper wrote:As u may know Electrue (Ele) have been setting new agents up in every area. This decsicion will affect their new agents as NESN will take back control of the job.
Not a chuffin’ chance that NESN will *EVER* see that work back now, it just isn’t going to happen and it’s totally unrealistic to expect otherwise. As for control, NESN never had had it! IMO, DSG had the control as they always do since they’re not exactly dumbies. I may not like them or their way of doing business but you have to acknowledge that they are clued up.
Now, do you honestly think that this scenario we’re in now has not come up for discussion at Electrue? They knew this was a likely thing to happen, or something of this ilk, the minute they mooted that they had their own system that they wanted everyone to use.
Flipper wrote:If u want to be an Ele agent outside of the NESN agreement wear a big hat because u will be shit on. (IMHO)
Oh and NESN agents won’t be? 🙄
Who’s going to get their work removed for not complying with Connect then? JT isn’t going to lose his job or livliehood is he, but he expects a lot of these guys to put theirs on the line for his little power struggle?
It is quite feasable that should the work be shifted away from some of the NESN agents that some could go to the wall, so the shit will land on all, not just Electrue agents.
I’m just glad for the moment that I’m not involved with either of them and even happier that I’m not reliant on either. I’m well out of it.
Flipper wrote:P.S. that doesn’t mean I wont consider it at the right price!
LMAO! See, that’s just what I’m talking about, if Electrue come along and put the gun to your head and say, “we’ll give you £45 a call but you ditch NESN” what are you going to do? Like most I suspect you’ll defect to the Electrue camp faster then a speeding bullet, especially since you’re SF and that work should be yours anyway in your particular case.
As for the others, it simply buys Electrue agents and, since they were paying NESN circa £46 a call, they can afford to do that.
Just watch what you sign up for in either case as in both you may well be selling your soul to the devil. 😕
K.
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