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  • #91808
    Crystallake
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    Hello.

    I am looking to install my new ElectriQ ceramic hob. It is to replace my freestanding upright cooker.

    The present cooker is a 3 core wiring situation into the cooker switch.

    But the new hob has 2 Live, 2 Neutral and a single Earth cable.

    So how do I go about wiring this into the kitchen.

    The built-in oven will be next but that is a normal 3 core wiring set up.

    Kind regards,

    😉

    #449341
    electrofix
    Moderator

    Re: Ceramic Hob installation advice please…

    its still a 3 core cable. they use a 5 core cable because it more flexible and smaller than using 3 cores

    just connect both lives to the same terminal and both neutrals to the other

    Dave

    #449342
    admin
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    Re: Ceramic Hob installation advice please…

    Personally I would advise you to get an electrician out to do it.

    Bryan

    #449343
    Crystallake
    Participant

    Re: Ceramic Hob installation advice please…

    electrofix wrote:its still a 3 core cable. they use a 5 core cable because it more flexible and smaller than using 3 cores

    just connect both lives to the same terminal and both neutrals to the other

    Dave

    Thanks Moderator Dave!

    Didn’t realise it was as straight forward as that. I have had previous experience installing upright cookers, in an old job working in a domestic appliance shop, so I know that much. The 5 core just threw me.

    So, with the built-in cooker also looking to be connected, do I need a special cooker switch that has the space for the main oven connected as per usual and another space to connect the ceramic hob please?

    At the moment I have the standard cooker socket with a switched plug socket built in.

    #449344
    electrofix
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    Re: Ceramic Hob installation advice please…

    does you cooker switch lead down to a cooker connection point behind the unit ?

    is the oven single or dual cavity ?

    Dave

    #449345
    Crystallake
    Participant

    Re: Ceramic Hob installation advice please…

    electrofix wrote:does you cooker switch lead down to a cooker connection point behind the unit ?

    is the oven single or dual cavity ?

    Dave

    The cable leaves the cooker and goes into a white covered wall box that connects there. That cable travels up behind the plasterboard to the main cooker switch/socket.

    The present freestanding oven is a double oven and the new (secondhand) oven, as far as I can remember is a main oven with a smaller top oven/grill.

    #449346
    Crystallake
    Participant

    Re: Ceramic Hob installation advice please…

    Does anyone have any suggestions please?

    Kind regards,

    #449347
    electrofix
    Moderator

    Re: Ceramic Hob installation advice please…

    so both units need to be connected to the cooker main.

    if the oven was just a single cavity it could be connected to a socket but yours has a separate grill so could overload a 13A plug

    dave

    #449348
    Crystallake
    Participant

    Re: Ceramic Hob installation advice please…

    Thanks for your reply.

    So what does that mean Dave?

    What do I do to make both ‘live’ and ready to cook please?

    Regards,

    #449349
    electrofix
    Moderator

    Re: Ceramic Hob installation advice please…

    not sure what you mean by that but you will have to connect both appliances to the cooker connection box as both need a 30A main

    its going to be a squeeze as the connector is not designed to take 2 cables but the only other way to get an electrician in to give you a connection for each appliance

    Dave

    #449350
    Crystallake
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    Re: Ceramic Hob installation advice please…

    Again, thanks Dave

    What I meant was what do I have to do to connect the hob and oven to make them work.

    But you have already suggested it.

    I have had a look and the junction box is exactly that, a very tight squeeze to get both connected there.

    So the only way is to have two separate cooker switches?

    #449351
    admin
    Keymaster

    Re: Ceramic Hob installation advice please…

    so both units need to be connected to the cooker main.

    Incorrect..!!

    Each appliance MUST have its own power supply as a double oven and an induction or ceramic hob will draw in excess of 30amps.

    Do NOT connect both into the same cooker point as you will make it a fire risk.

    Each one will need it own 30amp supply from the fuse board.

    Bryan

    #449352
    Crystallake
    Participant

    Re: Ceramic Hob installation advice please…

    Thank you for that important information.

    A Sparky it is, then!

    #449353
    electrofix
    Moderator

    Re: Ceramic Hob installation advice please…

    r600a wrote:


    Each appliance MUST have its own power supply as a double oven and an induction or ceramic hob will draw in excess of 30amps.

    Do NOT connect both into the same cooker point as you will make it a fire risk.

    Each one will need it own 30amp supply from the fuse board.

    Bryan

    fair point Bryan

    Dave

    #449354
    Crystallake
    Participant

    Re: Ceramic Hob installation advice please…

    Okay.

    I hope you can help me through this next part as I am a newly made 1 parent family who is also unemployed, so….

    …to keep things cheap as possible, I can set up the cabling myself and then get a Sparky to connect when ready.

    What is the correct cable needed for the new set up that will feed the ceramic hob?

    The present cooker has it’s own 30amp circuit breaker. What do I need to get to put in the consumer unit to connect the hob cable to the consumer unit.
    Please see attached image.

    I appreciate all your time and experience.

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