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Due to lack of space in our kitchen to fit a full height dishwasher, we are looking at getting a 6 plac setting compact, either AEG or Electrolux.
Has anyone any experience or suggestions regarding this size of dishwasher in general, and these models in particular?
Look forward to receiving your comments. Thanks!Re: Compact dishwashers – any experience?
Hi clr,
Read down to the “Compact Dishwasher bit 😉
TBH you’re not going to get much better than the baby Bosch, with the Zanussi as a second choice.
HTH
K.
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Indeed I have similar problem as my bungalow is rather small.
I had a Zannusi Studio (bought from Comet) a couple of years ago – 6place settings in white. (£279) I bought the matching tumble dryer at the same time which was £319. – Both are now sadly scrapped!!! (2 and half yrs on)
The dishwasher in it’s defence when it worked was fine, it washed and dried very well, but after the first month of ownership the Electronic Control Board failed and Zannussi refused to come out citing that as it was bought from Comet, they had to repair. The long and the short of it was that it was out of action for a month as they had to source a new board & heating element, as apparently when the board blew, it blew the element. Towards the last 6 months of it’s life, the front panel on the door cracked and needed a bit of duct tape put over it, but it didn’t effect the machines safe working. Eventually the board went again and it was beyond economical repair in my view. – Then the following week the dryer too went off. – Cheaper to get rid.
Now at the moment (ashamed to say this……you may whip me Kwatt) I have a Haier Compact one, that sits on my bench. (It’s about 6yr old beige plastic one, that looks like a space ship as the top opens up. I bought that off a friend for £25 as she was selling her stuff & touch wood its worked ok in the 6months I have had it, but if it was to ever break down (Being Haier……..it will no doubt) I have set aside some money to buy me the Bosh one from Currys at £279. – I have seen the £109 Matsui (or should that be Matpooey one) in Currys, but in all honesty think it would be false economy to buy it. Looking at Revooo’s site, a lot of other people think same.
Better off with the Bosh I think. – WQ
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Thanks for comments re Zanussi. I haven’t been able to find one to have a look at yet. All I can find are the baby Bosch models but they are 4 place settings whereas the Zanussi is 6.
Also the Zanussi is virtually full width so I could use it under the worktop and put a drawer or cupboard underneath.
Any idea where I might be able to get to see a compact Zanussi (in Surrey/West Sussex)?Re: Compact dishwashers – any experience?
clr0901 wrote:whereas the Zanussi is 6.
6 Place settings? Come on get real, a compact dishwasher? It’s a joke, they are quite simply, a joke!
WhirlpoolQueen wrote:Indeed I have similar problem as my bungalow is rather small.
Nothing wrong with small at all there WQ, small is good, so don’t clutter it up with a little, less than useless tin box. Sink – washing-up bowl – squirt of Fairy Liquid, splash around a few dishes and leave to dry. Easy, quick and eco-friendly and the exercise is good for us all after all said and done! 🙂
Re: Compact dishwashers – any experience?
Martin wrote:Nothing wrong with small at all there WQ, small is good, so don’t clutter it up with a little, less than useless tin box. Sink – washing-up bowl – squirt of Fairy Liquid, splash around a few dishes and leave to dry. Easy, quick and eco-friendly and the exercise is good for us all after all said and done! 🙂
Actually Martin… 😉
It has been proven that using a dishwasher uses less water than washing by hand and this is a pretty well documented fact. It also does a better job and is more hygienic.
But in any event, I’d still recommend the Bosch machine although the Zanussi isn’t bad really on the whole.
The Haier will die, it’s only a question of when WQ, but heh ho, lap it up while it keeps working as it save it going to landfill (where it belongs IMO :twisted:).
The Matsui is another Chinese flavoured machine at that price, possibly a Naiko in a dress, which is worse than Haier in some ways.. 😉
K.
Re: Compact dishwashers – any experience?
Martin wrote:
clr0901 wrote:
whereas the Zanussi is 6.6 Place settings? Come on get real, a compact dishwasher? It’s a joke, they are quite simply, a joke!
Tut Tut Martin! I am suprised at you scoffing at us mere mortals that are spacially challenged. LOL! Go in to the corner at once & write out 100 times
“Small is Beautiful”Joking apart, even though these machines are small they do a good job AND wash as well as a larger machine. In fairness to the Zannusi (assuming I had a Monday Morning or Friday night machine) it used to take quite a lot of dishes (Sunday Lunchtime) & then do a second run with the pans & wash after wash (when it was working) they always came out pristine.
WQ
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clr0901 wrote:Thanks for comments re Zanussi. I haven’t been able to find one to have a look at yet. All I can find are the baby Bosch models but they are 4 place settings whereas the Zanussi is 6.
Also the Zanussi is virtually full width so I could use it under the worktop and put a drawer or cupboard underneath.
Any idea where I might be able to get to see a compact Zanussi (in Surrey/West Sussex)?Oh Gosh! Now given that I am up North & your down South, I am a bit stuck on that one. If you go to http://www.zanussi-electrolux.co.uk/node142.aspx & put your address details in, it will direct you to your nearest supplier.
WQ
PS…..I strongly advise if you buy the machine (good machine IMO) that you buy an extended warranty either via the shop or via DOMGEN or Warranty Direct. Saves the heartache if your machine is either a Monday Morning or Friday Night one. – BEST OF LUCK!
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kwatt wrote:
Martin wrote:
Nothing wrong with small at all there WQ, small is good, so don’t clutter it up with a little, less than useless tin box. Sink – washing-up bowl – squirt of Fairy Liquid, splash around a few dishes and leave to dry. Easy, quick and eco-friendly and the exercise is good for us all after all said and done! 🙂Actually Martin… 😉
It has been proven that using a dishwasher uses less water than washing by hand and this is a pretty well documented fact. It also does a better job and is more hygienic.
But in any event, I’d still recommend the Bosch machine although the Zanussi isn’t bad really on the whole.
The Haier will die, it’s only a question of when WQ, but heh ho, lap it up while it keeps working as it save it going to landfill (where it belongs IMO :twisted:).
The Matsui is another Chinese flavoured machine at that price, possibly a Naiko in a dress, which is worse than Haier in some ways.. 😉
K.
Naiko? Who on earth are they? – Never heard of them I am afraid.
I wonder if we should open a “book” & take bets as to when the Haier may die? 😀
WQ
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Many thanks for your various comments folks.
If we had the space, we’d fit a full size machine, but as we haven’t, we have to make do. Anyway, mostly there’s just the two of us and whilst I can’t deny the health benefits of twirling a washing brush round a sink, I’d rather use the time to get my exercise in other ways.
(Still trying to find a Zanussi to have a look at – only the Bosch seems to be on display)Re: Compact dishwashers – any experience?
Hang on a minute!……………Are we talking about a ‘Slimline‘ dishwasher here or a ‘Table Top’ diswasher? I think the term ‘compact’ may be the misleading terminology here? 😕
‘Full size’ relates to a 820x600x600 12-14 place settings machine.
‘Slimline’ relates to a 820x450x600 9-10 place settings machine.
‘Tabletop’ relates to a 470x570x480 4-5 place setting waste of space!
The latter being as energy efficient as an immersion heater running a bathtub to just wash your left foot. And as practical as licking your plate clean and sticking it back in the cupboard!
kwatt wrote:It has been proven that using a dishwasher uses less water than washing by hand and this is a pretty well documented fact. It also does a better job and is more hygienic.
I do not dissagree there, but NOT true of the capacity of a tabletop machine. One washing up bowl will sort it all out in no time and your precious worktop space is not compromised with a heap of white tin stuck there with hoses dangling every which way. In fact it may even be cheaper and more energy efficient to throw your dirty crocks in the bin and buy new each time for what use they are? (only joking on the latter 😉 )
Hygienic cleaning is the only plus point, I must agree. Dishwashers of whatever size do hygienically clean dishes and cutlery that’s for sure. But hardly an issue here as we have been washing our dishes and re-using them for thousands of years. Rinsing them in the Ganges these days may have its risks but under a running tap in Romford should be just fine. 😈
But hey! If its a tabletop machine you want then a Zanussi or Bosch are a good purchase. But lets just hope you don’t throw a dinner party sometime soon because that silly little machine will be running all day and night to clear the backlog….. 😆
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Martin wrote:‘Tabletop’ relates to a 470x570x480 4-5 place setting waste of space!
The latter being as energy efficient as an immersion heater running a bathtub to just wash your left foot. And as practical as licking your plate clean and sticking it back in the cupboard!
Not totally, although I wouldn’t have one perhaps not even for the reason given as I think that you’d be faster just to wash dishes in the sink. But I guess it’s better to be factually correct.
The Bosch will use approx 5KWh per normal cycle so will cost around 50-60p from most suppliers to run a cycle in electricity. That will use 10 litres of water and then there’s the obvious detergent and salt (if required and advised) costs to add. So probably about £1 per cycle wouldn’t be an unreasonable estimate.
The Zanussi uses slightly less water at 7 litres but marginally more electricity power litre at 0.6KWH per litre but cheaper per normal program on the elctrickery at 40-50p per program. But then you have to wash an awful lot of dishes to justify the extra £60 for the Zanussi.
I would also agree that the table tops don’t perform as well even a slimline will but, if you really want one, you take your pick.
It will be more hygienic than washing by hand for sure but whether it’d use less water or energy to heat said water etc. I really don’t know offhand, I’d have to look up the numbers and it would depend very much on how your water is heated how the equation played out.
HTH
K.
(Edit: Forgot to add that this assumes the full quantity of water is heated the costs could drop to as low as 6p per cycle on electricity used simply as the information isn’t clear.)
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Ye Gods, I despair quite frankly to the degree that I am blowing a fuse right now!!!!!
Tell me, do you have a Washing Machine in your household, or is your other half expected to go down to the local river with washboard, grater & bar of Fairy Soap? This is 2007 not 1807 Martin!
Honestly, typical male attitude to washing up, I wouldn’t ruddy care but after you males expect us females to ruddy well cook you up a half dinasour for dinner, you then p off from the kitchen as fast as you like, leaving us females to do the “little woman thing” and wash the sodding dishes. – Well my hands in my household DON’T do dishes, that’s what the compact dishwasher is for.
And now I am off to burn my bra. 👿
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clr0901 wrote:Many thanks for your various comments folks.
If we had the space, we’d fit a full size machine, but as we haven’t, we have to make do. Anyway, mostly there’s just the two of us and whilst I can’t deny the health benefits of twirling a washing brush round a sink, I’d rather use the time to get my exercise in other ways.
(Still trying to find a Zanussi to have a look at – only the Bosch seems to be on display)Take it from me Hon, buy the machine. It will be the best £279 you spend. Ok so if you have a heavy meal session, you may need to do 2 loads. – Big deal, think of the time you will save not having to do the washing up. You can chill & drink a bottle of wine instead whilst the machine does the work.
Trust me, your hands will thank you for it in the long term.
WQ
PS Try http://householdappliances.kelkoo.co.uk/sbs/145101/14826451.html#
It has some link to some on-line retailers that may stock the machine you would like.
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WhirlpoolQueen wrote:And now I am off to burn my bra. 👿
Now steady on WQ keep your bra on, we fellas are well trained in the art of washing-up, after all said and done you gals taught us how 😉
The other issue I thought I would mention is that of ‘International Place settings’…? Oh yes! 😈
A tabletop dishwasher that claims to accomodate even just a lowly 4 place setting capacity would have to cram in the following: –
4 Dinner Plates
4 Side Plates
4 Cups
4 Glasses
4 Dinner Knives
4 Dinner Forks
4 Desert Bowls
4 Dessert Forks
4 Dessert SpoonsThey will squeeze in nicely I’m sure but leave no room for the preparitory pots and pans, serving dishware, associated serving cutlery and carving pallets. They will have to be washed in the sink later or shoehorned into the next 3 loads I guess?
Get real and get on those marigolds is the way forward I reckon :stir:
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