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Re: Corgi cowboys?
funkyboogy wrote:
where is this money going.Spot on mate. Not only that: Who’s paying??
No company has suggested or even hinted that they will have something in place to cover the on-cost. I’m waiting till I get a request to carry out an install and then quote the Corgi fee, plus an admin cost.
See what pads out I suppose.
Alex
Re: Corgi cowboys?
I’ve already warned the builders etc. that as soon as this kicks in there’s a £10-15 increase per gas installation.
I ain’t paying it.
K.
Re: Corgi cowboys?
funkyboogy wrote:
[size=18]corgi = money ££££££..
where is this money going.In Design!!! well someone has to pay for the new Corgi logos; I mean look at the work that has gone into the new one
Greg 😆
Re: Corgi cowboys?
Kwatt wrote
You as a private individual can take your gas boiler off the wall if it breaks. Pop down to B&Q, buy a new one off the shelf with no proof of competence required. Take it home and fit it and not a soul can say “boo” to you about it!
Are you sure about this ❓ I have in the past had experiance of gas installations and plumbing and am in the situation of installing the plumbing side of central heating at home at the moment but have been told that boiler manufacturers require evidence of Corgi instalation before they will honour guarantee in the event of failure. Perhaps things are a bit different ‘over the border’ ❓
Regards Sparkey
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Yep, anyone can work in their own home on gas.
Whether the manufacturer honours the warranty or not is up to them I guess, but just walk up to the gas section in B&Q (especially the warehouses) and check out all teh gas fires, boilers and water heaters alone that a total novice can buy off the shelf. Also you’ll find loads of gas fittings.
A few months ago I had to go get a few fittings for my own boiler and, lo and behold, the plumber’s merchants didn’t even ask me for a CORGI card even although I bought a shut-off valve and a thermocouple.
A month ago my old man walked into B&Q in Darnley, Glasgow and bought a combi-boiler, they only asked for one card… to pay for it!
K.
Yet the advice to the public on this site (recent post re. gas tumble dryer)is
“you must get this seen to by a Corgi registered repairer. Please do not be tempted to do this yourself”
“this is NOT in any way a DIY job, you must get SF in to repair it and they will, most likely, not sell you a spare if you do not have a CORGI ID to hand if the rules are still the same as they were in my day”…
Double-standards?Re: Corgi cowboys?
kwatt wrote:Yep, anyone can work in their own home on gas.
Allow me to clarify if I may 😉
You can buy anything you like from anywhere, there are no restrictions at all.
But, you cannot legally fit gas appliances or parts unless you are Corgi registered and have the relevent ACS qualification. Even as the homeowner by fitting gas parts etc you would be in contravention of the current gas regulations and are breaking the law.
Whether the HSE would prosecute a homeowner is another matter altogether of course 😕
With the new legislation being introduced along with Part P, this practice (in theory at least) will be outlawed as the homeowner will have to prove to any prospective purchaser of the home that all gas and electrical work has been carried out correctly.
Dave.
dpm wrote:Double-standards?
Not at all. I have never sold, since the advent of CORGI, a gas spare to a member of the general public unless they produced the relevant proof that they were qualified to carry out the repair. I sold a lot of spares in my day as well and was never tempted to break that rule.
Likewise I would not sell any internal microwave parts to a member of the public in case they fried themselves.
I will still not sell a gas spare without the relevant documentation but that’s a purely moral and commercial decision not a legal one. What it does mean is that there’s absolutely no comeback on us if somebody does supply a gas spare and the punter blows the house up. Cosmetics and user-serviceable spares are fine though.
B&Q et all will sell gas stuff simply as it’s worth doing for them and the morality of it be damned where corporate greed creeps in. But really, how much of that gear is actually fitted by a gas operative? And in addition to that, is not selling such product without any checks tantamount to encouraging a “cowboy trade” to exist after all, if there’s nothing to stop an unqualified person from getting supplied what’s the point of trying to regulate and control it?
The new safety notifications are going part way to solving that issue but, IMO, the only way to regulate the business is to stop any and all supplies to anyone that is not qualified and certificated to have those spares or finished goods at all, full stop. Without doing that the whole thing is just a joke and the cowboys will still be able to exist and trade as they can get goods. But as I alluded to, the sales of gas parts and goods to the “public” is worth a lot of money.
Just as an aside, I have never heard of a single prosecution of a homeowner for working on their own gas products and, most likely, it would create a media frenzy if it were to happen. I don’t think that’s the kind of publicity CORGI are looking for do you? 😉
K.
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