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Re: dogs
Reminds of a job just last year. Busy working on cooker in very narrow kitchen, window behind me open becuase it was very warm. Lady of the house in the other room working….. … just kept getting the feeling that I wasn’t alone (I knew no one else was in) and started to feel uneasey, stood, turned around to be face to face with a DONKEY. (about a foot away)Gave me a bit of a shock and didn’t think I’d made a noise but the lady shouted, don’t worry Steve, since you were last here we’ve now got a donkey, don’t be alarmed. No s&*(. could of warned me.
Dog lover myself and normally very confident with them but don’t like turning up to farms or similar properties with packs of dogs waiting for you to get out of your car… do I?/Don’t I?….. (you can imagine the dog saying”go on, make my day, make a run for the house…)
Not done it myself but understand a little bit of “checking insulation levels” on yappy dogs tends to keep them at bay 😀 😀 😀 😀
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Have always had a simple philosophy myself;
Remove the dog or I remove myself.
I win in 99{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of the cases. The odd times I lose is when you get people saying things like.. ‘ I think he’ll be alright, he’s not bitten anyone yet’.
That’s the point I walk back to my van and drive to the next job.
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Did a builders machine, Standpipe blocked so went outside back of house to unblock standpipe noticed it was his builders yard, and german shephard followed me back in kitchen so i made a fuss of it, the owner come in and was mortified, he said i should have been ripped a part they used him in the yard and trained him to attack anyone who got in yard.
Big Dogs are no problem its the little ones that bitRe: dogs
big dogs are lovely, esp the german shepards and bulldogs. its even funnier when one of your crew starts to get mounted by some massive dog – cant remember the breed but it was white and bigger than a g/s with long hair. u want to save them but its too funny to watch. [ps] i know thats wrong
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just been reading some of your posts about dogs and entering the house.
like one or two have said, it is the stupid owners and not the dog at fault.
during my absence from the trade i trained as a security dog handler with my german shepherd.what i learned;
if you want to put the dog into attack mode and bite, you shout “security officer with dog, come out or ill come in with the dog”
the dog then responds, it does not take alot of training to allow your dog to recognise a hostile situation.
you could should “i love you so much, pet, that i want make passionate love with you now” and the dog will respond as if in a hostile situation.
when owners shout at their dog in a “telling off” tone of voice, they are less likely to obey than if you said for example “good boy, come to daddy”
im saying this for some tips for those of us who enter houses with dogs.
intorduce yourself to the dog, in an excitable tone of voice, as if you are old friends who havent been together for a long time.
you can tell straight away by looking at the dogs tail for its mood. if it is curled upwards, then stay put. if it waggs from side to side you know you can make a friend.
sometimes the dog is unsure, and will defend its territory if it feels you are a threat. you have to show them that you are not.
and the owner should be saying in a “high” tone excitable voice, “go and say hello, who `s this”
some dogs, however, because of the poor communication and lack of bonding the owner has made with the dog, will just lunge straight towards you. there is no quick fix for this and the owner will know from other people previous visiting, what the dog will do. it is upto the owner to get their act together and make the dog feel more at ease in its own home around other people. if they shout at it to stop, it will only go the harder toward you.
anyway, i could write a full essay, so a couple of main points;
never put your fingers through the letterbox (ive learned that lesson 15 years ago)
if you feel unsure and lack comfidence with meeting a dog, then its best safer to ask the owner to kindly put the dog in the other room out of the way because you are a bit nervous.
some dogs, if they show they are aggressive and you arent affraid to just walk past, some will realise you are not a threat.
a dog senses a threat from someone who is either nervous or hostile, im not sure exactly why, but i think its got something to do with the sweat glands on a human having the same scent which the dog picks up.
one basic rule to remember, dogs no more and can see more of what is going on, they are clever.
if you shake hands in a kind way to the owner, or say hello in a nice way, the dog will know you are being nice.
alot of dog owners do not see how clever their dogs are, and the dog becomes frustrated at being told off all the time.
try this; if a dog is barking at you and the owner is shouting shut up, tell the owner to praise the dog if he barks at you and i am almost certain the dog will stop barking and start waggin its tail.
i personally, play it by ear, cos like some dogs (never their fault, its the way theve been brought up) like humans, you can get some nasty sarcastic awkward people.
i hope my post has been of some use to someone.
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I agree, 99{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of dogs are ok, it’s their owners..
cases like this don’t help though.. pretty distressing….. people just don’t seem to realise the dangers
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … y-dog.html
A big dog – look at the picture and imagine a 3 year old girl stood next to it…….
My wifes family have always had GS dogs…… never a problem..they were always pets and trained and natured that way from young….
I agree with you about handling of dogs. Any dog barking at me, I quite often just stand at the door… wait for the dog to come to me.. crouch down and put my hand out… let the dog sniff the back of my hand…. easy, slowly and patiently. When I think the dog is ready and calm and I’m confident, I will then enter.
I quite often get remarks from customers, well I’ve never seem him be so calm with some one….
Don’t get me wrong, I am weary but try to hide my fears.
My gently does it approach doesn’t seem work on yappy little dogs…. little dogs with big attitude….. Three years ago a yorkie attacked our retriever and cutting and ripping her jowels to bits… a big vet bill. When we went around to the owners house, it was “not my dogs fault,, your dog attacked mine and was defending himself…… unfortunately our pet dog has been walked to that same primary school for 4 years twice a day and most of the kids knew her and so did the a lot of the parents. Yappy dog owner eventually paid after a couple parents offered to be witnesses for us… It was the first time we’d ever seen her take that dog to the school and she only did a neighbour a favour by collecting her child. She has not been back since….
99{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of the time, it’s the owners…
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i always give the dog a slow steady outstretched fist to sniff, if it goes for a bite and hte owners there i pull it back quick. if the owners not looking it gets a knock on the snout and i tell the owner it would be best to put the dog away,
most of the time tho the customer is saying thru the door be 2 mins puttign hte dog away…
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poor dogs
you will only provoke a dog by tapping it on the nose.
do you do that with people too when you introduce yurself?
same thing, dogs no different.
if it bites you then its only defending itselfyour fault if it bites you when you do that
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My 7 stone labrador was once savaged by a PUG 😯
The owner came round kicking off about my vicious dog 10 times bigger picking on his little dog.
Told him to put his dog back in his handbag and f**k off.
I still laugh when I remember the look on his face 😈
Steve
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torxhead wrote:7 stone ?
what you feeding him on? repair men, lol
Not as big now as he’s 12 years old and slowed down a bit but he’s always been a softy 🙂
S
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most dog are.
what alot of people forget is that they have feelings too, and can be afectionate, they will also protect their property and owners, alot of people think most dogs are evil.
evil doesnt exist in animals, just humans.if you can convince a dog you are not a threat to themselves or their owners, there fine.
what alot of irate owners dont realise is if they are feeling angry with someone, their dog will stick up for their owners.
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torxhead wrote:you will only provoke a dog by tapping it on the nose.
not happend yet. albeit only had to do it twice in 5 years anyway
torxhead wrote:do you do that with people too when you introduce yurself?
no and likewise i dont open my mouth and try to bite their hand off them
torxhead wrote:same thing, dogs no different.if it bites you then its only defending itself
not at all.
torxhead wrote:your fault if it bites you when you do that
do what?
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if you naturally dislike dogs, they know it.
what else can i say.
if your not a dog lover and dislike animals you will always have problems with them.
some people get on fine with animals, some dont.
but to be fair, it can be difficult to concentrate mendng a washer, if a dog is licking you all over your face lol
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torxhead wrote:if you naturally dislike dogs, they know it.
but i dont “naturally dislike” dogs. far from it i love interacting with animals. **edit** in a normal manner, not in a weird way…
torxhead wrote:if your not a dog lover and dislike animals you will always have problems with them. some people get on fine with animals, some dont.
AND it really isnt that black and white, extreme examples i know but there are numerous occasions where all manner of animal lovers have been killed, maimed, or harmed by the animals theyve doted on all their lives – be them domesticated or wild. Im pretty sure they would state they were never afraid or disliked them either. “naturally liking” them just isnt enough to mean they wont try to harm you, and likewise “naturally disliking” them wont automatically mean they will go for you. as with humans, animal behaviour is often hormonally controlled, and whilst many other external factors will affect their general “personality” i.e commonly rescue dogs will be very timid if theyve been abused, and volatiley aggressive if theyve been used as fighting or street dogs, (although most of those are often destroyed humanely) an unexpected dog attack is primarily going to be hormonal. e.g if they have picked up a scent of a similar breed on you and assume you to be a rival mate.
“smelling fear” is commonly misappropriated. but im not saying it never happens.
torxhead wrote:what else can i say.
less abrasive ‘assumptions’ would be nice
torxhead wrote:but to be fair, it can be difficult to concentrate mendng a washer, if a dog is licking you all over your face lol
agreed
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