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Re: Drum spider ? Should I bother repairing or just replace
Well, I’ve found out why the drum wore through the heating element !
Also, I got the rear bearing out with little trouble, but the front one…. oh oh…. I clobbered hell out of it from behind with an old 8″ socket extension bar and it never moved a micron. I managed to pull the seal off the front and cleaned it up with a Dremel. I’ve now left it soaking in WD40 overnight and I’ll try it again tomorrow with a lump hammer.
I have a funny feeling that someone has clobbered the hell out of it before (not me ! – it’s a second hand machine) judging from the state of the bearing housing… tell me they’re not supposed to look like that !
Re: Drum spider ? Should I bother repairing or just replace
To put it technically that housing looks knackered
Re: Drum spider ? Should I bother repairing or just replace
I agree it’s less than optimal ! However… it’s the only one I have and I’m hoping that it’s just that face that’s knackered. If the bit that holds the bearing is intact I should be OK…. presuming of course I can get the bugger out ! The edge where the front seal would interface with is pretty rough too, so I would smear that with silicone before fitting the seal. If I can get the bearing out, I should be ok I think.
If it was a car with a metal hub I could get the blowtorch out to expand it, but the nylon tub makes that a tad awkward !
Torque settings for Drum Spider / Support ?
Hi,
I’m just fitting a new drum spider to my old Hotpoint WM52 and I have no idea how tight to do the three 13mm bolts up that clamp the spider to the drum. I’ve put threadlock compound on them and done them up pretty tight…. but I have a reputation for overtightening things !
Given that it’s a cast alloy spider, it’s going to be fairly brittle, so I don’t want to risk cracking it at the mounting points.
I have a torque wrench – but no idea what these bolts should be tightened to.
Anyone got any idea ? Also…. which way round do the little triangular plates with the nuts in go ? There’s a small lip on the outer edge of the plates… does that face towards the spider or the front of the drum ?
Ta !
Edit: I’ve taken them off again and cleaned the bolts up… I decided to wait for a reply here rather than press ahead with the bolts done up like the propellors on the QE2 !
Edit again !: Here’s the little bracket things that the bolts screw into. My logic says that the plates should be oriented as per the photo and the bolt would screw in from above. i.e. the edge of the bent lip would face the front of the drum. The captive nut is wider on the underside of the plate and slightly recessed. If it was the other way around, the plate itself would not make contact with the drum. Am I right ?
Re: Torque settings for Drum Spider / Support ?
The smooth side goes towards the drum, have never torqued one of those and have done hundreds over the years, just use a 13mm socket and get as tight as you can
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The trouble is “as tight as I can” equals stripped threads – I guarantee it !
Re: Drum spider ? Should I bother repairing or just replace
Merged threads, best to keep it all in one place. As with Andy I have never used a torque wrench in over 40 years. A good engineer has an inbuilt torque wrench. 😉
PS. can you make your pictures a little smaller or just upload them via the forum option, it makes the whole page go ‘off screen’ if they are too big, even on my widescreen monitor.
Re: Drum spider ? Should I bother repairing or just replace
aneng wrote:The trouble is “as tight as I can” equals stripped threads – I guarantee it !
Christ almighty, what part if “just do it tight” don’t you understand? Just get your granny to tighten them and that is tight enough! Blimey
Re: Drum spider ? Should I bother repairing or just replace
aneng wrote:You need a snickers mate.
:rotfl:
Re: Drum spider ? Should I bother repairing or just replace
aneng wrote:You need a snickers mate.
Some might say, among other things. 😉
K.
Re: Drum spider ? Should I bother repairing or just replace
Well, I need a swear box. I’ve just knackered the new front bearing.
I was trying to get it in using a 2mm pin punch and a club hammer. Don’t ask me what possessed me to try it like that… Either way, the punch slipped and dented the metal bearing seal to the point where the bearing catches (not to mention the seal doesn’t seal anymore).
What a goon.
Oh well, I’ll just have to order another.
What would you use to tap the bearing in (and don’t say ‘someone else’ !).
Re: Drum spider ? Should I bother repairing or just replace
I don’t tap them in, I use the proper bearing fitting tool kit that has served me well for many years. 😉
Re: Drum spider ? Should I bother repairing or just replace
Right then ! Replacement bearing fitted, courtesy of a home-made bearing press (no hammering this time !). I’ve reassembled the machine and it’s currently running a load.
However….
It’s making a strange squeaking / creaking noise at low RPM – just like someone rubbing a wet finger on a glass. It disappears as it speeds up though. The only think I can possibly think of is the front bearing seal squeaking against the shaft. It’s bloody annoying, I know that !
When I fitted the drum into the tub (before fitting the pulley and nut), the drum spun nicely with no weird squeaks. Once I had fitted the pulley and tightened the nut, I noticed the drum now had a very slight resistance to turning and would ever so slightly rebound as it stopped. I also noticed the squeak at this point.
Has anyone got any suggestions please ? I’ll record it and stick it on here in a bit…
Thanks !
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