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May 6, 2009 at 1:51 pm #45504May 6, 2009 at 1:54 pm #285903
kwatt
KeymasterPup,
Could you please not use a URL in the subject line, it messes up the scroll? Thanks
K.
May 6, 2009 at 4:00 pm #285904SimonCD
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May 6, 2009 at 4:13 pm #285905kwatt
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We’ve been trying to figure it out as, TBH, it’s a bit of a mystery.
There are some rumours/talk/hearsay about the Samsung RSH/RS series perhaps having an issue but, it’s just that, absolute hearsay.
The trouble is, there’s not enough gas in the machine to cause this sort of damage IMO and that of a fridge expert so, what’s caused it?
If the attending engineer didn’t go near it with gas then how? And, while you can think what you like about the attending BG engineer I doubt that he’d have done anything totally stupid and, if he had, I very much doubt that BG would have kicked it back to Samsung and the HSE.
It really is a very interesting mystery.
K.
May 6, 2009 at 5:16 pm #285906expertcat
ParticipantIt would poss if leak was confined to fridge space. With the door shut it becomes ready for a spark to ignite.
But then fan 12v heater 240v and lights 240v. The only ignition cause would be lose bulb creating a spark.
But theres alot of ifs unfortunally the BG engineer would be the answer.
May 6, 2009 at 5:49 pm #285907turbodry
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Have seen exactly the same on an Ocean F/F, just enough gas if leaked into the enclosed fridge cavity to mix at a highly explosive ratio … all you need is the spark then BOOM. The one we saw blew the roof off the conservatory and the remains on the fridge door were bent into a V shape by it’s impact with the wall opposite. It also managed to move a stud partition wall!
The owner naively thought that a bottle of fruit juice had exploded.May 6, 2009 at 6:08 pm #285908pup
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turbodry wrote:Have seen exactly the same on an Ocean F/F, just enough gas if leaked into the enclosed fridge cavity to mix at a highly explosive ratio … all you need is the spark then BOOM. The one we saw blew the roof off the conservatory and the remains on the fridge door were bent into a V shape by it’s impact with the wall opposite. It also managed to move a stud partition wall!
The owner naively thought that a bottle of fruit juice had exploded.that r600 gas for you 😥
May 6, 2009 at 6:51 pm #285909spimps
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600 is heavier than air so it will stay at ground level mixing with the right amount of oxygen and 8O.
60’s and 70’s there were some spectacular and fatal explosions from smallish leaks with boats using LPG cookers and absorption fridges,I was working for Electrolux then.Leaks occured and the gas was trapped in the hull until it was accidentally ignited by some means or other.Installations were changed to prevent this etc,thats also a reason wht LPG fridges in caravans have grills through the floor to allow gas to escape through.
I’m still amazed that it was ever introduced in the way it was into domestic fridges,more ammo for the regulation brigade.May 6, 2009 at 8:01 pm #285910BobHope
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Hi Spimps.
that appliance has a drop hole under both fridge and freezer evaporators (the defrost drain hole) where the r600a a would be quicky dispersed by the condenser fan on the rear. so we all wait to find out the cause of the true fault.
ps its hard to put a drop hole in a boat 😆 .
Bob
May 6, 2009 at 8:55 pm #285911spimps
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BobHope wrote:Hi Spimps.
that appliance has a drop hole under both fridge and freezer evaporators (the defrost drain hole) where the r600a a would be quicky dispersed by the condenser fan on the rear. so we all wait to find out the cause of the true fault.
ps its hard to put a drop hole in a boat 😆 .
Bob
Is this an American side by side type? that must be the drain hole that water doesn’t want to go down.Problem is the fan tubulence would mix the 600 with the air quite nicely 😀 😯
Lots of if’s and buts,we will as you say haveto wait and see.
The boats had to have a metal sump tray under their gas appliances with a drain off hole to outside, the gas therefore didn’t drop into the bilge as it were.
Then some went to dc voltage compressors.May 6, 2009 at 9:07 pm #285912funkyboogy
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seems a bit strange that it been ok for 4 years and then blew up after a repair ??
these f/f dont have thermostats.. wonder if its system work thats been done??
hope samsung get a good look at it
ally
May 7, 2009 at 7:37 am #285913Flyman
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Seen a couple of these where the defrost element blows and puts a hole in the evaporator. As soon as the compressor kicks back in it would fill the compartment with gas in seconds. :rolls:
May 7, 2009 at 1:09 pm #285914spimps
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spimps wrote:
BobHope wrote:
Hi Spimps.that appliance has a drop hole under both fridge and freezer evaporators (the defrost drain hole) where the r600a a would be quicky dispersed by the condenser fan on the rear. so we all wait to find out the cause of the true fault.
ps its hard to put a drop hole in a boat 😆 .
Bob
Is this an American side by side type? that must be the drain hole that water doesn’t want to go down.Problem is the fan tubulence would mix the 600 with the air quite nicely,turbo fan assisted 😀 😯
Lots of if’s and buts,we will as you say haveto wait and see.
The boats had to have a metal sump tray under their gas appliances with a drain off hole to outside, the gas therefore didn’t drop into the bilge as it were.
Then some went to dc voltage compressors.An expansion rate of a compressed gas can be somewhere around 200 to 1 which, with a charge of say 100gms when some of it escapes and expands would be more than enough with the help of the evaporator fan mixing it up to fill the freezer with a flammable mixture.
It wouldn’t escape as the drain hole diameter off 1/4″ wouldn’t be any good,2″ dia hole might do the trick but can’t do that in a freezer.
Interesting times 😕May 10, 2009 at 10:49 pm #285915whitevanman
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It could be that the be that the pipe buried in the insulation had corroded causing the leak.
Take a look at this one
November 3, 2009 at 1:06 am #285916wsts
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kwatt wrote:
The trouble is, there’s not enough gas in the machine to cause this sort of damage IMO and that of a fridge expert so, what’s caused it?
1 litre of lpg = around 246 litres of gas depending upon temp of liquid.
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