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Re: Fuzzy logic
Having witnessed Kwatts house several times I can say he’s into home automaton, so he has this remote panel which he presses to put the coffee thing on……. it also turns the lights on and off as you go to the loo at 3am as you enter and leave rooms, using the alarm sensors without triggering the alarm, clever that.
The draw backs are…. it does not pour the coffee, yet, or flush the loo!
Sorry Ken, I do have to say the best bit is the sound system that goes with £20,000 worth of cinematic projection stuff, which totally blows you away when Gandolf plunges his sword into the bridge and says ” you shall not pass”. 😆
Kevin
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It’s a passion okay, it has been since I was a kid. I like to push the boundries of what’s possible, especially on a budget. If I were only free of financial constraints (i.e. I had a lot more cash) what can be done using different technologies melded together is just unbelievable in this modern age.
Even on a limited budget, what can be done is pretty astounding.
That AV kit is worth a bit, I admit that, it’s just a shame that I don’t get the time to take advantage of it these days, but when I do I seriously enjoy it. Some people spend money on cars and stuff, I prefer my technology and I’ve spent close to 20 years getting it the way I want it.
And often it’s worth it just to see the look on people’s faces when they see and hear what can be done.
But that aside, fuzzy logic is extensively used for the likes of the lighting that you mention, it behaves in certain manners dependent on local conditions, including the weather and time of day, light level and a host of other factors. Condition setting includes those things, flags in the system to determine what the user or occupier wants to happen which makes the house appear to think for itself.. fuzzy logic.
AI is a long, long way away from being available to consumers and whilst, even in the most advanced games (read, the most advanced intelligent software you can buy pretty much), there is an element of AI to it, it’s really just an extension of fuzzy logic which anticipates the players responses to a given situation and responds accoringly under the conditions.
AI is a totally different beast, it can evaluate a situation, compute and plot a course of action based on the paramaters but, importantly, it can change if the circumstance does, much as we do in daily life. This would include variables beyond the scope of the actual original programming, in effect it is a mind to itself, hence AI.
You can fake AI to a degree, but it’s complex to do so and requires a fair bit of forward thinking.
Whether this is required, or even desirable in a domestic appliance is open to debate, personally I don’t see the need for such measures in a washing machine or oven et all as they are, in effect, “dumb” devices even tricked out as some of them are now. They still all rely on human intervention to actually perform a function and, until robotics catch up, they shall remain that way. Although that field is advancing at an astonishing rate.
But Elica have an automatic hood that detects polutants in the air and responds accordingly, a first step maybe, still pretty dumb really? 😉
If you want to be on the cutting edge, it’s expensive and risky from a business point of view and that’s probably why most manufacturers steer well clear as its an untested market. But then the implimentation of technologies within the whitegoods industry thus far have prety much swayed from really bad to just plain stupid.
K.
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I think you are right about AI Ken. It will be a long while before they produce anything to equal the human brain – if they ever do. If they do succeed it will not be using anything like present technology but rather by copying the neurological design of the human brain. There is already quite a bit of research in this field with the aim of developing computers based on biological rather than electronic digital designs.
have a look at these for example:-
Yeah bio-computers were mooted back in the 80’s IIRC and I reckon it will happen, but not soon.
Proper AI has been used in, surprise, a chess machine. You go to all the trouble of creating a machine that can virtually think for itself and get it to… play chess!
I think it was IBM that was showcasing that a year or so ago.
But no matter, it’s all a bit of overkill for a humble washer. 😉
K.
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😉 😉 😉 Perhaps next time you won’t scorn my prophetic utterances 😉 😉 😉 – (lots of winks just to make sure that certain people dont take me seriously)
Top of the range is the Premium Touch washing machine, which uses state-of-the-art technology to wash your clothes. It features the first touch-screen control panel ever on a washing machine, an electronic detergent drawer and jet wash system, but remains incredibly simple to use. You can even save your own washing program, for ease of use in the future.
Beneath the modern, clean cut lines of the machine is the Wash Wizard system, which decides, based on the weight and type of laundry, as well as how dirty it is, how best to wash it, measuring the precise quantities of detergent and water into the illuminated drum. Water purity, the amount of foam and the cleanliness of the laundry are constantly measured by the system.
They also employ an intelligent measurement system that only uses the minimum amount of detergent and water necessary for the cycle – saving detergent, the most expensive material in washing, and water, as well as being friendly to the environment.
Have a look here
http://www.dad-online.co.uk/html/news.html
from that link follow ‘Gorenge launches new laundry range’
Andy
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F & P give the motor a preset turn and work out the load size by the acceleratrion and braking of the motor. The new model claims to work out which fabric is in the machine ???. Patent searchs are a good way to figure out whats going on in a machine look at the numbers on the back
JamesThey can now work out what fabric is in the machine, but the only way I know that it can be done is by the use of RFID tags. If you scan the news you’ll be able to read up on them.
It should be interesting when we get faults like, the machine doesn’t work on a 60o program, then we call to find that the user is trying to wash 40o only fabrics. 😉
K.
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