Has anyone heard of The Appliance Academy

[spimps]

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Shaun67 is obviously looking to improve his knowledge on several fronts of the applince repair trade.
Good look to him in seeking training and advice,it’s to be admired taking the time, trouble and interest to make sure he is on the right track, we can only try to advise as best as possible.
Those of us who are grumpy and old,scars and all plus it’s also down to the fact that we like to give accurate and correct advice for those young chaps making their way as best as possible.
Safe handling ,refrigerant recovery,evacuating systems,brazing,recharging are these all included in the course.
How much is practical and how much theory?
Would the qualifications be recognised by CITB,ACRIB.
If he plans to develope his skills further down the line to F-gas is this a formal qualiicaton that will be accepted by the afore mentioned, whilst giving hinm an insight into systems will it suit his needs,if he has full information it will help him decide.
Not intended to be rude by the way.
RegaRDS
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[JohnS.1]

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Thank you Martin and K,

Firstly, let me clear up the up front fee bit. We operate a first come first served basis as we only take 8 students per course. The number of students is limited to enable the instructors to give 100{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} to each student. The fee is payable with the registration documents to confirm the students commitment to attend the course and reserve a place. Like any other business we need bums on seats to survive and pay our way. As for the accreditation question, watch this space. Its on its way, but as all matters of this nature, you need time and plenty of money. We hope that starting this Academy will bring much needed new blood into our industry.
I hope this answers some of your questions, if not I am always available to talk to you if you call me on 01279 445545.

best regards

John S 😀

[squadman]

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BIt of a dull dingy looking website, hope the courses are more inspiring !

[kwatt]

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Hi John,

Can I assume that there’s no formal qualifications then?

Have you spoken to Graham Dixon about the new qualifications that he’s been trying to push through? It may well be of interest to you.

There’s no problem at all with training and trying to get new people into the industry at all but you also have to understand that, in the past, we’ve all seen dodgy courses on Ebay and suchlike so there’s always going to be a healthy degree of scepticism of anything that people don’t know. My advice would be to set your stall out very clearly and state, very clearly, what you do and do not do offer in the courses. As we have seen from recent debacles a failure to do that very often ends in speculation and what can become very negative publicity which nobody really wants.

I can also appreciate the “bums on seats” approach but, you catch more flies with honey. 😉

K.

[shaun67]

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Hi Guys,

Thanks for asking some of the questions that i would not have asked due to being a bit wet behind the ears so to speak on refrigeration especially (as this is a course i am also interested in as well as the electric cooker course ) . I am looking to add as much skill as possible .But i want to do it right and safely for me and any customers i encounter down the line!!

I am fine regarding washers/dryers,tumble dryers and dishwashers , as i trained properly to do this and still learning as each appliance is slightly different and sometimes unique faults that most of us have never en counted before crop up. But at least i can do it safely with the knowledge i have through proper training.

Only started the thread because i wanted to know if anyone here had done any of the courses, or knew of the training center to see if it is worthy of doing to get more training on certain appliances that i have not already trained for.

Shaun

[Lawrence]

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My opinion for what its worth ,if you can repair washers ,then you can do cookers ,its all stats ,elements and fan motors ,the trick is knowing how they come apart and some of there “quirks” but that is what UKW is for ,never be afraid to ask or PM people .
Refrigeration is different…

[Martin]

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:hmm: But it would be difficult to combine tuition on ovens and hobs with washers and dishwashers over a 5 day course. So a course more specific to any product group has to be more beneficial for the student. The safety and testing aspect of cookers and hobs for example can be quite different than that of a freestanding washing machine.

Therefore I think it a good idea to have these courses split in the way The Appliance Academy has chosen to do. Also, looking at their website, specifically the refrigeration course page, the training venue looks spacious and well laid out. I would think the fridge course includes system repairs by the looks of it.

Fair play to John and his team I say. And we can only hope more dedicated training facilities such as this become more widespread throughout the UK. There is a need, there is a need for greater NVQ type courses specific to domestic appliances. Such institutions should be encouraged not criticised! 😀

[bagman]

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Personally I think a basic electrical course would benefit a lot of engineers more than anything.
Knowing the relationships between Live, neutral and earth and how to detect and test between them is a fundamental part of this job.

The times I’ve seen ‘engineers’ in the local distributors asking which way the wires connect on capacitors and similar never fails to amaze me.

Edit. Just realised it may look as though I’m casting aspersions…I’m not ofc. I’m just saying that if you haven’t already got a good grounding of electricals, then that would be beneficial 🙂

[shaun67]

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Martin wrote::hmm: But it would be difficult to combine tuition on ovens and hobs with washers and dishwashers over a 5 day course. So a course more specific to any product group has to be more beneficial for the student. The safety and testing aspect of cookers and hobs for example can be quite different than that of a freestanding washing machine.

Therefore I think it a good idea to have these courses split in the way The Appliance Academy has chosen to do. Also, looking at their website, specifically the refrigeration course page, the training venue looks spacious and well laid out. I would think the fridge course includes system repairs by the looks of it.

Fair play to John and his team I say. And we can only hope more dedicated training facilities such as this become more widespread throughout the UK. There is a need, there is a need for greater NVQ type courses specific to domestic appliances. Such institutions should be encouraged not criticised! 😀

I would say that i agree with Martin here regarding cookers and hobs ..I do have an understanding of electrics and yes cookers do have elements and stats etc that can easily be tested similar to washing machines as Lawrence says .But you also need to know the correct way to install them and to make sure repairs are left safe when finished and properly earthed..

Then there is the factor if you were asked to install a hob or cooker , that the circuit will handle the power of some of the more powerful cookers ..No good fitting a cooker that will cause tripping because the MCB fuse is not rated for that specific cooker .I know all about Diversity and how to calculate the factors , but a little training is always better than none at all .

Shaun

[shaun67]

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Would just like to add that i spoke with John again today .

We had a lengthy conversation regarding the CK1 course (I will speak with John about the refrigeration course once the CK1 is done). John explained everything to me and i was happy to find that what i needed would be catered for on this course.

The course details that John provided, reminded me of the Dixon training course that i attended .so i think the training academy will be a very good addition for up and coming engineers like myself and also for anyone who wants to start from scratch or just to refresh there training ,as there are very little courses available (i know i have looked everywhere ) to add extra strings to my bow so to speak..

John explained why booking up front is necessary and he also said that he does provide all details (even before you book a course) You just have to ring him and he will answer any query’s that anyone has. Just like he did with me.

Shaun

[Martin]

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shaun67 wrote:to add extra strings to my bow so to speak..

Well for you Shaun….go for it mate, I would! :tup:

[shaun67]

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Martin wrote:

shaun67 wrote:
to add extra strings to my bow so to speak..

Well for you Shaun….go for it mate, I would! :tup:

Thanks Martin 🙂

[shaun67]

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Just like to add that i attended the CK1 electric cooker course last week .
I must say it was very informative and i would not have learned what i learned on the course any where else .

John started by going through all the health and safety aspects and test equipment of working with electricity and explained all the workings of how a cooker operates ,this was repeated over and over again before he would let us go near any of the cookers !

We were also shown how to install standalone cookers ,built in cookers and hobs etc and how to dismantle them for fault finding.

Once John was satisfied we all fully understood the safety procedures he let us look at some raw appliances that may or may not have faults .For me this was really good because we now were going to do our safety checks and try to discover the faults if any were evident.

Yes we actaully found a couple of faults and actually got the appliances back up and running.

The course layout is fantastic ,the building is really big and John has seperate work areas .One room is for cookers ,one for refridgeration and one for laundry appliances i.e washing machines,dryers and dishwashers ..What i really liked about the laundry course is that John has the washing machines/dryers etc ready for the engineer to connect to the exsisting water supply right round the room , the engineer gets to see the machines fully working after they have been repaired .

Also John says he starts from scratch showing wash cycles and explaining how you can see where problems arise at certain points of the cycle ..All the courses include safety and fault finding teqniques as well as how to test machines safely and with the right test equipment,

This is good because some people don’t even know how a wash cycle works when learning to be an engineer..(must admit i never used a washing machine before i went to the Dixon training course lol).

Anyway overall i was very impressed what John is doing down there in Harlow ,reminded me of my Dixon training course ..so a big thumbs up from me ..

Will be doing the refridgeration course once John gets that going ,John was on the look out for a refrigeration guy to teach the course and be able to give the right accreditation and safe handling of refridgeration ,lots going on in the pipe lines for John at the moment.

A bit long winded but thought i’d share my experiance.

Shaun

[Martin]

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shaun67 wrote:A bit long winded but thought i’d share my experiance.

Not in the least Shaun, that was a great report and no doubt it will encourage others to participate and also dispell any critics doubts.

At last, more positive news about training…nice one! :tup:

[ELDAR59]

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did we get anywhere with this? has anyone attended a course?
the link doesn’t seem to work.

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