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October 29, 2011 at 10:37 pm #65947
supermaticjames
ParticipantHi,
A friend of mine has a Hotpoint 9524A but the timer isn’t powering up when the machine is turned on? No activity at all. The machine is in good enough nick for a common machine of the 80’s (800 rpm spin was a good speed back then yes?). Apparently the interlocks on these are not that good, the electric ones that buzz during spin. What does F and N stand for on the module too? I hope I can get this machine going as it’s in a nice state and my friend will give it to me very soon.
James
October 30, 2011 at 8:58 am #362457Martin
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supermaticjames wrote: Apparently the interlocks on these are not that good, the electric ones that buzz during spin.
That is true and could quite easily be the problem.
supermaticjames wrote:What does F and N stand for on the module too?
“Field” & “Neutral”
supermaticjames wrote:I hope I can get this machine going as it’s in a nice state and my friend will give it to me very soon.
You lucky boy you!
October 30, 2011 at 9:14 am #362458iadom
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Hi James, didn’t reply to your e-mail last night, I was out watching my daughter and the rock band she sings with at a pub in Sale, in the company of Roly16 as well 8) . It was very late when I arrived home.
The doorlocks can cause problems but if they fail you can normally see burning on the door lock terminals. They were not that bad TBH and didn’t wipe out the electronics like interlocks do on a lot of modern machines if they failed. 😥
I will reply to your e-mail later. 😉
October 30, 2011 at 4:09 pm #362459supermaticjames
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Hi guys,
Still no luck. The interlock doesn’t look fried. What is the first thing to get power after the suppressor? Would it be possible for the suppressor to have died? I really don’t havw a clue as to whats up, the timer and module look ok and hopefully aren’t damaged.
James
October 30, 2011 at 4:43 pm #362460Martin
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supermaticjames wrote: the timer and module look ok and hopefully aren’t damaged.
If I were you I would remove the red, green and white timer connector blocks and see if any of them are fried?
October 30, 2011 at 8:10 pm #362461supermaticjames
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Hi again,
No connectors are burned… I hooked the timer motor to the suppressor and it worked so neither are at fault. However when everything is connected; nothing. Certainly a head scratcher. It’s as if power isn’t reaching the switches in the timer. I must look at the bundle of wires going from suppressor to timer but it would be impossible for them to get damaged there. I forgot to mention that when I was dismantling lastnight, I accidently turned it on and it tripped the fuse. I assumed this happened because the module was already taken out and the wires shorted. I bet that damaged it. Looks like this one isn’t mean’t to be?
October 30, 2011 at 10:14 pm #362462supermaticjames
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Could it be the push/pull switch in the timer? :O It’s the first thing after the supressor and controls power to everything. That’s bad. :/
James.
October 30, 2011 at 10:36 pm #362463iadom
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The timer switches are a very common cause of this fault. In 99{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of cases there will be obvious damage to the green connector block on the front of the timer, look at that very closely for the slightest signs of burning.
October 30, 2011 at 10:44 pm #362464supermaticjames
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There are two green connector blocks? There is a small one which I assume you are referring to and a longer one. I’m not with the machine ATM, my collection live as Gran’s up the road.
I don’t remember any burning but I’ll look again tomorrow. If that’s the problem what do I do? I could carefully dismantle the front of the timer and sort it?James.
October 30, 2011 at 10:54 pm #362465admin
KeymasterHotpoint 9524A No Power
Hi
I used to open up these old timers that had the front points burnt out and they worked as new.
Bryan
October 30, 2011 at 10:59 pm #362466iadom
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supermaticjames wrote:There are two green connector blocks? There is a small one which I assume you are referring to and a longer one.
James.Not the small one, the large one at the very front of the timer.
October 30, 2011 at 11:14 pm #362467supermaticjames
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The one with two wires or the one with many wires? So I can save it? 😐
James.
October 31, 2011 at 10:48 am #362468iadom
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supermaticjames wrote:The one with two wires or the one with many wires? So I can save it? 😐
James.
Two wires ❓ The large green block at the very front of the timer should have four wires, if it only has two then the machine has already been ‘doctored’. :rolls:October 31, 2011 at 11:40 am #362469supermaticjames
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Nope not doctored. 🙂 There are four wires at the very front of the timer for live, neutral etc. I think. Four spades on the timer itself too. Two wires are connected through a small green connector and then the two wires below are connected with insulated spades. Maybe this is original or not but it’s all there. The switch must be done then. How to I open up the front of the timer to access it as I’m sure I can fix it.
I’m really happy it’s just a switch problem. If that fixes it then I’ll have a very nice July 1988 9524 with minor rust under the front panel.
James.
James.
October 31, 2011 at 12:30 pm #362470Martin
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I think you’ll find the Timer looks uncannily like this: –

The Front GREEN connector block has 4 wires and the RED one alongside has no less than 6 connections. The GREEN connections are the double-pole On/Off (Push-pull of the Timer shaft) switching. And almost always the live terminal burns and the brick red colour of the timer burnt a nice shade of black around the offending terminal.
Dismantling and repairing such a device is complex in the extreme. Hence why in many cases evidence of a bodge-up is very noticeable. Beyond that I’ll leave that to your imagination and ingenuity to rectify. Or, you could buy a recon replacement from EMW Electronics.
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