Is this the end of my 22 year old dishwasher

[electrofix]

menderman wrote:That element doest look flimsy.
So £130 for the part and then the cost of fitting – how much on average would that be. I can get an extra 3 years guarantee for £89.

what parts on the Hotpoint are the culprits and how much would their Hotpoint engineer cost,

the heater is just the blue painted bit on a steel tube

compare that to the type of element originally fitted (see pic)
this element is off a washer but the dishwasher ones were similar housed in a case. cant remember ever having one go. whereas i have a scrap machine in the back of my van now, with the later heater gone

Dave

[andyjawa]

It should be a reputation now in tatters but people still keep buying `em, its like the lemming syndrome aka 1.5ltr Audi/Skoda/VW/Seat engine management failure – kangarooing and konking out across a junction – not good for the health and neither was the upgrade – that doesn`t work either!! If spending big bucks you do your research well, obviously some people don`t.

[menderman]

I do wish that I had not brought the Bosch now and instead just gone for a £200 currys + £75 5 year guarantee, scrap after 5 years = £55 per year less than £1 a week. Or kill or cure attempt a fix myself after 5 years.

On the repair subject electrofix you were spot on with your diagnosis of a broken impeller. I dismantled to have a look.

[menderman]

I have completely dismantled my old Bosch dishwasher (see avatar )so would anyone like any parts free of charge and just pay for post.

[andyjawa]

Sorry to hear that. Well, like I said you might get lucky with your new Bosch as I certainly hope that you will. Of course I am not privy to the whims of Bosch`s technical going ons so that offending part ( the heat pump motor ) may now be ok….or on the other hand, it still may not be. On a brighter note if you have a complete s/steel tank at least you should not suffer the leak problem that plagues the s/steel set into plastic upper base frame which is the cause if many an e15 = basal leak code. Very common fault.
I think everyone is up against it these days to find anything whether it be new appliances / new cars / new build houses that are not impaired one way or another…everything?
God help us all when heat pumps replace gas boilers, we should all start to lay our bets on to what degree of a disaster that will be.
An analogy: my bought brand new 2008 Chinese copy of a Honda cg125 bike under the Newera label cost incl delivery a mere £400 in a crate as an assemble it yourself jobby ( easy for me to do especailly since an ex Soviet made Voskhod 175 owner from late 1970s ( very cheap bikes and 25 years old of date compared with Jap bikes at the time: slow but fun, plenty of experience in repairs there but simple to service and very cheap to do so, least in those days. Tyres could last 15 years, made for Russian village roads at that time not so much for tarmac ) but the point is is it any good or is it a piece of cheap tosh? Well for 400 quid it has gone wrong once outside Waitrose (!) but cost only 15 quid to fix when the ignition coil failed. I did a bit of research before I bought it off e-bay and everyone said stay away, glad I ignored them as the thing been a godsend over the years to avoid rip car park charges when I go in to Sin City ( any major UK town! ) but it is not without its faults: the wiring loom is a joke but re using washing machine wiring looms are wonderful things. The suspension is a little hard on the failing body initially but that was more to do with the front forks rubbish oil and the steering head bearings were missing a total of 6 1/16th ball bearings, the rubber and plastic bits are not very good but cheap to replace or I use Honda parts which are better and not necessarily horrendously more expensive given the competition on Ebay but everything else is just fine. For 400 quid a bargain has not, least to date, thrown me under the 23 bus. Great little bike for short 20 mile trips, that is what it was designed for.
If you read the reviews on the Curry`s Essentials the common complaint was the bottom basket falling off its guides when pulling out the basket and that is true. Though from memory you replace those wheels with Bosch wheels preferably the pattern ones to cut down on costs, about 3 quid each then it works ok. The plastic instrument/ fascia panel is somewhat weak just like they are with Beko dishwashers so you have to be gentle with it. There is always a weak point somewhere with all this stuff it just depends what and how much.

[electrofix]

with you new bosch its very important to make sure water flow remains good to stop the heater from being stressed
make sure you rinse the plates to make sure no debris enters the unit and blockes the bars along with regular removing and cleaning the filter

have had customers with these pump motors 8 years old plus but all in all the failure rate is far too high

Dave

[andyjawa]

Very true and good useful points.

[menderman]

So are my 22 year old parts any use to anyone – before I take it to the tip.

Back in 2016 when it had an issue with poor cleaning at 14 year old with the help of this forum I cleaned the matrix thing that was gunged up with – gunge, the red float thing was stuck. So ever since then I have always rinsed stuff – got a bit OCD with it actually, if the missus loads it I always have to pull the plates out and check, :p, I trust her with tea cups and thats about it. 😀

[andyjawa]

I think with your old machine it`ll be tip time. Trouble is fitting 2nd parts, especially electrical odds and sods, is fraught with legal problems if it comes flying back because it caused a household disaster the legal bods will have a field day especially if there is no insurance which is usually the case. Yes I know there are 2nd hand parts ( often at inflated prices ) via breakers on ebay, maybe the sellers have nothing much to lose or much more likely they couldn`t give a toss? Scrap it is my advice, take it to the tip, it`s a shame but I`d play it safe.

Just as a point. God knows in one of my previous posts why I quoted the steering head ball size on my bike at 1/16th as they are 3/16th; just a correction!
All the best.

[menderman]

Thanks. At least now that it is in bits its easier to get in the car and wont be leaking water all over the place and weighs less. I was surprised to see it actually had a dead weight sitting on top of the tub just under the lid top.
Its not all scrap though the weight thing will come in handy and I have salvaged the metal panels and cut off the folds so i have now got 3 flat steel sheets that will come in handy for some unknown future project. I have saved the outlet and inlet pipes and all the self tapping screws that I took out to dismantle it (surprisingly few actually ).
I cant help it – its what I’m like 😮

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