New Forum?…..”Medic Advice for engineers”?

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  • #36763
    Martin
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    “Gawd helpus!” I cried when I got out of bed this morning….“My back’s killing me!”

    Strewth, yesterday I had to lift out the drum on one of those Zanussi washer dryers (WJD1667W it was). Bloke had left a handful of 2 inch lost head type nails in his back overall pocket and the drum seized solid as a result!

    Lifting that damned heavy drum out and then putting it back has done my back muscles no favours, let me tell ya………..ouch, today I find it hard just lifting my toolbox….oh the pain of it all! 😯

    I wonder how many engineers are off sick as a result of lifting these ruddy things? Must be a flippin’ ‘elf ‘n safety issue’ for employed staff? Two-man job even? Self-employed old git like me and I shouldn’t be doing this at my time of life! :rolls:

    Perhaps we could set up a Medic Advice forum relating directly to the stresses and strains of our workload? A kind of Health & Safety forum to advise on what to do and what not to do on your own. Advice as to at what point it’s best regarded a ‘two-man job’?

    We’ve recently found floating about type air sleds for lumping fridge-freezers about, now is there a ‘fold-away block & tackle device’ for lifting drums out? Or shifting stacked dryers onto the floor and back?

    Oooooh my aching back…….must lie down with a cuppa tea now! 😉

    #252247
    kladave
    Participant

    Re: New Forum?…..”Medic Advice for engineers”?

    Hazards of the job i think Martin!
    Iv’e had a bad back for years but what makes it worse are built in washing machines/dishwashers and double ovens,also like you say stacked tumble dryers.
    I get help every few months or so from my local chiropractor who gets me to strip half naked and jumps on top of me…..ooohh ere

    #252248
    kwatt
    Keymaster

    I’m beginning to think that psychiatric care may be required for some. 😉

    The legal limit is 25kg for a one man lift so far as I am aware. A tank with weights on does generally exceed this.

    K.

    #252249
    bagman
    Participant

    Re: New Forum?…..”Medic Advice for engineers”?

    One of the places I used to work ages ago had something very similar to one of these http://www.liftingsafety.co.uk/shop/ind … cts_id=920

    It was a fantastic piece of gear..

    #252250
    Martin
    Participant

    kwatt wrote:I’m beginning to think that psychiatric care may be required for some. 😉

    Comforting, reassuring words indeed, thanks for that!:wink:

    kwatt wrote:The legal limit is 25kg for a one man lift so far as I am aware. A tank with weights on does generally exceed this.

    Two-man job then do you reckon? 8)

    #252251
    admin
    Keymaster

    Re: New Forum?…..”Medic Advice for engineers”?

    Martin,

    It is sometimes possible to remove the dispenser, door and seal, valves etc. and hold back the timer or pcb with elasticated straps and turn the appliance up side down. The tub will then rest on the top counterweight. If you then undo the hoses, suspension legs and wiring you can lift the cabinet off the tub assembly. The cabinet is much lighter than the tub.

    I accept this is not possible on all models and, sometimes, space is not always available in small kitchens or utility rooms but it may be of help at other times.

    I have seen it done on Gorenje and the older Zanussi/Electrolux appliances and, to be honest, it did not take any longer than the conventional method.

    Richard

    #252252
    wilf
    Participant

    Re: New Forum?…..”Medic Advice for engineers”?

    I use a piece of 1/4 ply inbetween the tub and the cabinet lay the machine on its side and slide the tub out.
    Bad backs are an occupational hazard I used to find changing the old 879 hoover timer was a real sod intense bending could be harder work than lifting!

    wilf

    p.s. have you tried rubbing it with a raw onion!!!!!!!!!! 😆

    #252253
    Martin
    Participant

    Re: New Forum?…..”Medic Advice for engineers”?

    wilf wrote:p.s. have you tried rubbing it with a raw onion!!!!!!!!!! 😆

    :rotl: I’ve just looked in the pantry…..only got a bag of shallots….will they do?

    Richard wrote:I have seen it done on Gorenje and the older Zanussi/Electrolux appliances and, to be honest, it did not take any longer than the conventional method.

    You’re a good man Richard, nice to hear from you again by the way 😉 and you’ve sussed exactly what my original post is all about. Serious hints and tips for us poor sods out in the field. I appreciate the tip mate thanks! 😀

    #252254
    squadman
    Participant

    Re: New Forum?…..”Medic Advice for engineers”?

    Ah Martin being as kryptic as ever ! I love it, bring more on , Ha 😀

    #252255
    Turbo
    Participant

    Re: New Forum?…..”Medic Advice for engineers”?

    Made up a box out of old 17mm thick chipboard shelving that I slide under the Zanussi split tubs.
    The dimensions are 51cm long x 24cm wide x 16.5cm height this caters for washing m/cs and washer dryers. Had to cut some of the sides away to clear the base of the machine.
    But yes as you say Martin this trade really knocks the stuffing out of you, am 47 this year and really cant see me doing another 10 years in this trade.
    I also wear Snicker (not Knickers :lol:) work trousers with the Knee pockets and Snicker Knee pads(Brock Bead Type) as the old Knees have had it 🙁
    Graham

    #252256
    goosegreen
    Participant

    Re: New Forum?…..”Medic Advice for engineers”?

    Best way to save the old back! Give up bearing changes and tub out jobs. I did 3 years ago and haven’t had so much as a twinge since.


    Goose

    #252257
    Turbo
    Participant

    Re: New Forum?…..”Medic Advice for engineers”?

    Yes good advice, only do the Zanussi split tubs, WMA and the rest no thanks. I give them to another local trader.
    Graham.

    #252258
    reaper
    Participant

    Re: New Forum?…..”Medic Advice for engineers”?

    Some wuzzes on here.Bearing jobs – love ’em – good money while they’re still going. WMAs-still doing a few of these, once you get organised and fit an exchange unit(one you made earlier). It takes longer to refit the harness.Zanussi split tubs,rear off split cabinet, hoses off,motor off,wiring off heater and stats,top suspension pegs half out,lay it on its back-remove pegs and top springs-just tilt front cabinet forward.Voila!-no lifting the tub,just all those ruddy bolts to take out.Reassembly is just the reverse.Btw I’m 60 years young this year,knees are ok-try squatting it relieves them,back problems mainly muscular, repair themselves within a few days, eat plenty of protein – thats what muscles are made of.Trapped nerves,try stretching exercises – I had trouble in my early forties mainly through pulling appliances from under worktops with my right hand,muscle built up on my right shoulder and the twisting action caused the problem.Try alternating which hand you use.

    #252259
    iadom
    Moderator

    Re: New Forum?…..”Medic Advice for engineers”?

    reaper wrote:Some wuzzes on here

    Took the words right out of my mouth. 🙂

    Another 60 year old. 8)

    Hard game of squash tonight against a copper 17 year my junior, six calls before dinner tomorrow, I enjoy getting my teeth into a ‘big job’ beats the boring carbon brush changes any day.

    Jim.

    #252260
    Penguin45
    Participant

    Re: New Forum?…..”Medic Advice for engineers”?

    Quite seriously, Martin – get yourself down to the chiropractors and get crunched. Mine is a miracle worker – I have on occasion gone in unable to stand up straight and an hour later was working again. The unfortunate bit (you being a Yorkie), is you have to pay……… 😆

    Chris.

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