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Re: oxy’balls
K……….don’t hold back mate! you have obviously done your homework and I, for one, am fascinated, so don’t hold back……vent that spleen 😆
And don’t forget of course that the blardy things also bash the merry ding dong out of your drum leaving more dents than a wayward 2p coin!
AND when the salesman flogs ’em to ya he may mention that the clothes smell as if they have been out on the washing line……..you know the smell….fresh air.
No surprise there then 😳 ‘cos you just washed them in fresh air 😆
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gandh, you might just be experiencing discomfort after the natural oils have been stripped from your skin, laundry detergents are pretty effective de-greasers i’ve found.
I keep hand cream in the glove box & use it a lot it must be said, if i get detergent on my hands the skin feels as tight as a ducks chuff for the rest of the day, no matter how much i rinse it 🙁So invest in some hand cream…. because you’re wurf it 😉
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Good point madmac.
There are three basic elements to a wash process that removes dirt…
Heat
Agitation
Chemical to break down grease/oil/staining and hold it in suspension
It’s basic chemistry, you should have gotten that in school. The last part is a fact and there has to be some way of breaking the grease away from the surface it’s on, in effect, to break down the surface tension of the grease or oil.
It isn’t beyond the realms of possibility that same chemical reaction is doing exactly what it’s supposed to do, just directly on the skin.
Oh and just as a by-the-by, ecoballs, soapnuts and all the other nonsense that’s out there do not provide one of three key elements of the wash cycle and, therefore, cannot work. Unless someone’s rewritten the laws of chemistry and physics but not bothered to tell anyone, which I strongly doubt.
Haier used the same method for their “detergent free” washing machine launched in France a year or so ago and, after may people saying that it plainly didn’t work, it was quietly dropped. If anyone will be happy about that it’s probably Helo. 😉
K.
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delta01 wrote:so you dont endorse them then ?
😆 A masterful piece of understatement.
As for me, I’m not bothered enough to argue about it or even bother googling around for scientific research papers which I haven’t got the patience to read. Must say I’m a bit suspicious of anyone seen in the vicinity of a laboratory in the light of recent scandals though 😆
However, at least £2.99 is a lot less than £29.99 so the market is sorting out a fairer price in the end.
Mike.Re: oxy’balls
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If you read my first post more carefully you’ll find that I never believed that they are anything more than a “placebo.” That doesn’t mean I accept your claims that they ruin clothes.
Or is your remark something to do with my new signature?
Mike.Re: oxy’balls
Not at all Mike.
For me it’s simple logic.
If they don’t clean then clothing will get ruined. It may take a few washes, it may take ten or even twenty but, if they are not being correctly cleaned then they will get ruined. It really is simple logic.
No dirt off the clothing, it’ll smell and go grubby. There’s no escaping that fact.
Ergo, they ruin clothing.
How quickly things are ruined depends on the frequency that they are washed but, chances are, most people wouldn’t notice the progressive degradation of the laundry.
People think they’re cleaning when, they’re not. They chuck out clothing et all long before the garments should be thrown out and therefore they have exactly the opposite environmental effect that is advertised.
It’s known as a Catch 22. People think they’re doing the environment a favour when, in reality, they aren’t.
K.
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Sorry I did actually mean to say…
Most of the people that buy into this rubbish aren’t doing so because they want to save a polar bear or two, they want to save money. The environmental argument most of them couldn’t give a stuff about but, it’s nice cover for being a tightwad.
Thing is, if they ruin clothing earlier than washing the stuff properly then any financial benefit is also up the Khyber as well as any environmental benefit.
Basically, it’s a bunch of shysters flogging this rubbish praying on people’s fears over the environment or promising that they’ll save money.
Snake oil.
K.
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Ken I wasn’t looking for an argument. You can believe what you like; I’ll believe what I like.
In my third post, @ 12.07 am, I was just wondering what on Earth you were referring to when you asked if I had, “Abandoned hope of a miracle..?”
Mike.Re: oxy’balls
Dead simple.
From what you you said I had surmised that you were purporting that these things actually worked or did something and that, with the lack of any evidence to state that they did, you had given up that position. In other words, there was no miracle solution to a detergent free wash that works.
K.
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Just as I thought. That’s why I suggested you went back and read my first post in this thread. I hope that you have now understood that you surmised wrongly.
Mike.Re: oxy’balls
It’s the same argument as dryer balls – you don’t hang your clothes on the washing line and throw stones at them, do you?
Chris.
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Penguin45 wrote:you don’t hang your clothes on the washing line and throw stones at them, do you?
Chris.
Could be worth a try. Keep the kids away from worse mischief at half term. 😆
Mike.Re: oxy’balls
leavemetogetonwithit wrote:Just as I thought. That’s why I suggested you went back and read my first post in this thread. I hope that you have now understood that you surmised wrongly.
I did….
leavemetogetonwithit wrote:How do they ruin clothing, Ken?
Seems to me they “work” for some people who try them simply because they’re people who very seldom actually get their clothes dirty.
In saving such people money on detergent, and the NHS money due to savings in .s for skin damage due to detergent overdosing/insufficient rinsing due to lack of filter cleaning, I’d say on the whole they’re a good thing.Did I miss something or not answer any of this?
K.
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