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There must be loads of threads where Zanussi bearing changes are discussed. Have you tried a search? I’d say they’re a whole lot easier than a WMA. I quite enjoy them as you can mark the parts up quite a bit. (It’s a bit like MP’s not being properly paid and so making it up on expenses 😆 :duck: )
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grazzamongrel wrote:now then zanussi washing machine bearing change is a different matter.
i have never done or attempted one because it looks like a lot has to be dismantled, so on that note how do you go about bearing change on a zanussi washing machine or even better a washer dryer. and how much do you charge for it??
If we’re talking split cab types of zan grazza, fairly straightforward IMO. 8 screws to remove when you get the lid off (extra one by the drain hose at rear on later ones) then once its split i take motor off, & tuck all the wiring out of harms way, then its just susp pins, hoses, door seal off front lip.Prise the tub springs up with a thin screwdriver & try to support the drum as it releases. Then its just the pulley & the boring tub bolts to unwind & Bob’s yer uncle.
W/D’s are barely any more hassle, they just look it ‘cos of the extra gubbins in the way.
One tip.. the drum can be a pain to get suspended on the springs again if youre working alone like me 😥 so i use an old snapped 3 rib dryer belt through the spring holes, & do the one on the timer side first as the soap drawer really gets in the way.As for price… you’ll make a bloody fortune by the sound of it!! 🙂 I can get ‘tween £65/ £95 on average, depending on spider condition, might sound like a lot of work but i do like to keep the older Zanussis going if at all possible 😉
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thanks for that madmac i will attempt to repair the next one, i have written so many off i seem to have lost quite a bit of money if it is as easy as you say.
thanks again 😀
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Madmac wrote:Wish i could get that grazza, i find £80/£90 is about as much as they’ll stand 🙁
I’ve been reading this thread with interest and I must say I’m amazed at the prices you guys charge all over the country for jobs like this. And the fact that Madmac’s punters will only stand up to £90 for a WMA bearing change just un-bl88dy-believable to put it mildly. :rolls:
Fair play if you are happy doing it but sweet cheeses christ almighty, have you not figured the customers alternatives? Figure it out, their WMA is stuffed, no two ways about it, it needs drum bearings to sort – fair enough. But how much would the manufacturer charge? (assuming it’s out of the 5 year warranty period here)?
OK sticking a bearing kit in can be done and retailed easily for that amount of money, but the recall rate is high, the time spent is undeniably underselling yourself. Furthermore, by not changing the spigot that recall rate will increase substantially anyway…..The whole kit and caboodle for me or no deal I say…but hey!
Just thought I’d chip in……carry on, don’t mind me… 😉
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In my experience the recall rate is extremely low. I do sometimes change bearings twice on the same machine but the replacement ones last a few years 😕
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Yep, i agree phidom, gotta use your common sense, no point replacing a perfectly serviceable spider. I find the WMA stylee seal set up a big help in that respect ‘cos on a regular spider with a Bronze, it is a little difficult sometimes to make your mind up if its still fit for purpose.
As long as theres no play when back together, i find WMA’s WF’s etc last just fine :tup:
I probably am too cheap Martin, & believe me, i would LIKE to get more for my efforts, but i find £100 is the cutoff point for most customers. Try for more & you get a copy of a saturday tabloid with comets or currys latest £169 ‘bargain’ thrust in your face :rolls: Waddy gonna do, better a modest earner than no earner IMO 😯Re: Pathetic!
Madmac wrote:Prise the tub springs up with a thin screwdriver & try to support the drum as it releases. One tip.. the drum can be a pain to get suspended on the springs again if youre working alone like me 😥 so i use an old snapped 3 rib dryer belt through the spring holes, & do the one on the timer side first as the soap drawer really gets in the way.
I use same procedure, Madmac, but I lay the machine on it’s back before releasing suspa pins and springs, then lift cabinet carefully away. Reverse procedure for re-assembly.
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Martin wrote:..how much would the manufacturer charge? (assuming it’s out of the 5 year warranty period here)?
What about Hotpoint’s £99 deal? Does it not apply? Has it expired?
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leavemetogetonwithit wrote:What about Hotpoint’s £99 deal? Does it not apply? Has it expired?
No they still honour their guarantees and those customers with machines under 5 years old I advise them to go to Hotpoint. The only WMA bearing jobs I do are over 5 year old machines. Though in all these many years I’ve only done a handful as many I’ve come across over 5 years old the bearings and spigot are so badly bu77ered they’re not worth attempting a repair.
Most of my former Hotpoint (WM/WMA) customers are now proud owners of Bosch machines anyway. My advice taken to heart by them and as a result future custom assured.
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when i do a wma job the cust gets a new rear drum half, heater, and drum support needed but i usually have a spare inner drum with new spider fitted to save the hassle of doing it at customers house.possibly new drum seal as well but usually mastic does the trick 😀
thats how i justify my charges for the job i do and now i even have a whole drum assy ready so cust feels they getting a better deal then i recondition custs old drum with new rear half etc. sweet 😀
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Martin wrote:
leavemetogetonwithit wrote:
What about Hotpoint’s £99 deal? Does it not apply? Has it expired?No they still honour their guarantees and those customers with machines under 5 years old I advise them to go to Hotpoint.
Have you forgotten about this Advice to Hotpoint customers
Martin?
Mike.
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Bearing jobs, like most appliance jobs are easyonce you no what your doin.
When i was an employee of ServiceForce 😆 we`d get 2 rear tub changes a day, got the extension bar on the drill to remove bolts and we were issued a small bench for the tub to slide in and out of the cabinet without touching the floor.
In a kitchen with space, total job start to finish could be done in 45min.
To put tub springs back we have the lift tool or now I use the snapped belt to pull up.
When i was doin Servis UK an out the top drum would be slide through the top once appliance was on side and a board is used to slide drum out.
Bearings take around 1 hour.
Beko through the front 40 min max.
Neff rear spider, 45 minutes.
Bosch bearings on all models max 1hr.
After 5 years if a job took longer than an hour, i start considering retraining somewhere.
If you ever get a scrap m/c i recommend taking it away and practice on, like most things, practice makes perfect.
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I’m glad I don’t have to work under that sort of pressure. It’s when you have to work against the clock that you cut corners or overlook things. I’ve worked on WMA machines that have had a tub change done by Hotpoint. When I do them I carefully redo all the cable ties I’ve had to remove. They don’t bother, leaving wires to rub on the front counterweight.
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I must have led a sheltered life i have never seen an “bearing lock” is it any good and where do you get it from?
cheers phil
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Phidom wrote:I’m glad I don’t have to work under that sort of pressure. .
I never understood the pressure that some mention.
I was paid for 8 hrs work, i did 8 hrs, if more i got paid overtime, if at 7hrs 30 minutes i still had jobs left, simple, phone SM.
I never had too.
I always ordered parts to return another day before i ran out of time. :rolls:
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