Regas fridges yes or no

[Madmac]

Re: Regas fridges yes or no

kwatt wrote:

It was interesting at the last meeting when there was the opportunity presented to repair domestic heat pump heating systems, worth thousands of pounds, in some cases tens of thousands.
These type of heating systems are set to become more popular as, on that scale, heat pump works and is economically viable.

K.

The council are putting ASHP into quite a few houses around here, aint massively popular with many tenants though I hear.
Complaints of intrusive noise and higher than expected leccy bills commonplace 🙁

Interesting system though,and in theory if you can expect a COP of over 3 on average and run it on under 10p kWh electricity it might just work out slightly cheaper than gas CH.

Eddie.

[kwatt]

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I think “not perfect” probably covers it.

That said, gas won’t last and is subject to price swings, usually upward. All the more so as it becomes more scarce, as politic demands or a person, perhaps a certain Mr Putin.

On the other hand, we’ve got this big nuclear reactor in the sky that pumps out energy for free all day long. Heat pump can use that.

The problem is storing that energy, which is being looked at.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/ … first-week

Someone is gonna get rich, really rich. Or, save the planet. Or, both.

I can’t help but think that the days of fossil fuel heating, among other things, are numbered in one way or another, not least as it will run out. Perhaps not in my lifetime although perhaps it will but inevitably, it will run out one way or another.

If you tell people they can have free heating or energy for an upfront cost, I reckon a fair few people will go for it.

I’d bet they don’t whine if it’s “free”.

K.

[lee8]

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From my limited experience when something worth money appears on the market in reasonable numbers a sudden interest followed by national coverage will appear well before any independent gets a look in. The bigger the value the quicker the response. Knowhow whitegoods have been training on smart tech for a few yrs now which had involved boiler work by peeps who struggle to fix a whiteknight tumble dryer. So far not much has come of it as it’s more gimmicks than value to the consumer. But a new concept requiring fridge skills, yeah by the time an independent gets their training cert a national will have it covered.

[funkyboogy]

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im sure with all the dryer heatpumps on the market now it wont be long until some bod comes out with a portable style heat pump heater .

ho much it will cost ?? — could be a cheap as a argos fridge nothing in them really

they all seem to be 134a at the moment for some reason

give it 5-10 years and they will be the norm for heating i would think

ally

[stratfordgirl]

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Apparently, according to Google Shopping, there are already loads on the market – combined air conditioners and air source heat pumps. Bulky, ugly, things with the vent hose usually hanging out of the window. Although more efficient than straight electric heaters, gas is probably still a cheaper and more convenient option.

[kwatt]

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The installations I was referring to here are more than a freestanding unit that are often ugly, inefficient and not exactly cheap to run due to poor efficiency.

Think more, central heating type affairs. Much like HVAC in the US.

A good explanation of cost comparison is here:

http://www.narecde.co.uk/air-source-hea … VKCf2Dv1Fk

Whether it’ll fly in the UK (among others) who knows, we seem to be addicted to wet heating systems that burn stuff.

They’re often R134a or R22 Ally as it’s more efficient so I am led to believe than R600a hence the use of both in car aircon systems, oh and, the whole exploding thing’s a bit of an issue there and homes in quantity. In the past, R12 and R22 seemed more common other than really big installations but, almost all were CFC from what I can gather, before that pesky hole was found in the ozone thingybob giving the polar bears a sun tan.

Plenty of refrigerant gases to choose from though…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_refrigerants

K.

[funkyboogy]

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yeh dont think they have banned r12/22 in the usa ?

far better refrigerant for these units than 600a – could be a big stumbling block for bigger unit in the eu/uk ? with all our silly rules and regs .

its probably used more in air con there – wouldn’t like to take air con away from the yanks.

ally

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