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    Re: scrappage scheme …..for white goods…!!!!

    I can’t remember if there’s been a thread about the car scrappage scheme. I imagine there has been one. I really think that scheme is the most idiotic waste of my taxes that could have possibly been thought of. (Except for assisting our ally across the pond to wage Vietnam vs.2 and vs.3).
    I think we need to get our acts together and protest strongly against this even more stupid idea of scrapping whitegoods on the pretext of “benefitting the environment”. It’s really about keeping a few jobs going until the election. And there’s probably some behind the scenes deals going on in the EU context because most of the whitegoods “we” buy come from Italy, don’t they?
    Maybe we could jointly draft a letter of protest and each send it to our local MP. 💡 .Probably wouldn’t have a huge effect but sitting on our butts moaning on here to each other has even less.
    Mike.

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    Iamdbat
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    Simply Laughable – These politicians – counsellors … whatever, that voice this kind of garbage should be given a quick kick in the so called proverbials.
    We got this moron over here in Ireland insisting that every light in your house should be energy efficient – BY LAW!!!! – What an @rsehole! – Can you imagine the expense for a householder just to comply – and say nothing about christmas lights – please … If they spent less fighting political corruption and more on good advisors maybe economies will start to move again 😕

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    Penguin45
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    It all depends on what they offer in relation to age, efficiency and carrot.

    The car scheme has removed a large number of “old smokers” from the road. It has also taken a toll of fine classic cars, one or two of which have been saved at the last moment and a few which the owners clubs have managed to strip to a shell before it gets crushed. The real problem is that many of the ten year old vehicles were in perfectly decent working order and were only marginally less efficient than the new vehicles replacing them. The main group taking up the scheme were the older generation, who could look at a new car (particulary the Matiz) and get it for £2k less. “Nice new car will see me out” attitude.

    What no-one has taken into account is the initial production energy used to build these scrapped cars. Many of the cars disposed of by the older generation are actually low mileage vehicles which have hardly begun to amortise their production footprint.

    The difference between that position and ours is money. A car is usually the second most expensive item (after the house) that anyone buys. To this day, I do not understand why people buy new cars. Taking ownership, turning the key and moving the vehicle for the first time costs you £2-3K in depreciation. By the same token, buying a domestic appliance in the current climes and plugging it in renders it valueless. The re-con market is more or less a dead duck; the public will either repair or replace depending on what they spent in the first instance.

    Given that I charge £50 for an hours work and the government may offer some sort of partnership scheme with the manufacturers and/or retailers to give you £50 off a new appliance, what are the cattle – sorry – public going to do? Do I have to answer that? We all know what it is.

    And the production footprint arguement is still valid and will be conveniently overlooked – again.

    As a by-the-by, does anybody actually understand that we’re only just coming out of the last Ice Age? It’s a 20,000 year cycle (roughly). It’s recorded and documented for millions of years by our scientists. The last few thousand years, we’ve been bumping along the bottom part of the sine wave on the graph and now it’s heading upwards. And it will do so for the next 10,000 years until it gets very hot indeed, regardless of our pathetic, disorganised, money pinching, “Not me ‘guv” attitude to the problem. It is just what the planet has done through recorded history.

    10,000 years after that though, you’re all in trouble. It will be very cold indeed and the penguins will be back.

    Chris.

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    chalky
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    at least we would all be busy after the warranty was up! 😆

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    wilf
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    just done a job for a motor trader he was telling me he went to one of his contacts on a buying visit and saw a 10 year old ford kar 13000 on the clock showroom perfect.
    ” wow I’ll have that”
    ” sorry no you wont its GOT to be scrapped”
    little old lady traded it in for a new one

    you cannot tell me that scrapping perfectly servicable equipment is good for anything enviroment manufacturing service industry etc etc

    wilf

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