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  • #426706
    diyisgreat
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    Re: Seimens SN25 M830 UK Dishwasher Error E23 Urgent h

    Would still appreciate just a little guidance as to how with a multi meter I check existing pump before jumping in and replacing anything
    Gut feeling is it is the pump that’s faulty but would still be grateful for help even if you think mere women should not tackle such things

    we all have to learn somewhere and sadly for many people money simply does not grow on trees these days

    All local repairmen want £60 just to walk in the door
    which neither I or daughter has

    I am of course very well aware to disconnect machine from supply and not go at anything gung ho

    #426707
    Martin
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    Re: Seimens SN25 M830 UK Dishwasher Error E23 Urgent h

    As I said in my post over a month ago, the pumps resistance level should read 80ohms using your multimeter. Disconnect the wire to it then check the coils resistance.

    You have to be aware that other factors can lead to these somewhat random error codes. And replacing the pump may not necessarily cure the fault. A little knowledge can be a costly and time consuming and very often can get you nowhere. We will help where we can of course to avoid you stumping up 60 quid but ultimately calling in a local expert could be your cheapest option short of getting the local authority to dispose of this somewhat fault prone gadget.

    #426708
    diyisgreat
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    Re: Seimens SN25 M830 UK Dishwasher Error E23 Urgent h

    Are you suggesting this particular model is fault prone ????????????


    If so which brand /model does she put her self in hock for

    #426709
    geekay
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    Re: Seimens SN25 M830 UK Dishwasher Error E23 Urgent h

    She could always use the sink and some fairy liquid

    #426710
    Martin
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    Re: Seimens SN25 M830 UK Dishwasher Error E23 Urgent h

    diyisgreat wrote:Are you suggesting this particular model is fault prone ????????????

    Indeed so.

    diyisgreat wrote:so which brand /model does she put her self in hock for

    Ah, tough one that. Many makes have similar weaknesses and coupled with many users ignoring putting salt in and thinking 3 in 1 tablets will do, end up with early breakdowns. I was pro- Siemens for decades, not any more.

    But the good news is it can be fixed, but then you may have to reconsider getting local help.

    #426711
    diyisgreat
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    Re: Seimens SN25 M830 UK Dishwasher Error E23 Urgent h

    Fairy liquid ……………is whats been going on for last 6 weeks
    but that causes its own drawbacks

    I have an even older Seimens Dishwasher that touch wood is fine
    which is why she bought the one she has

    The bottom line is

    The machine tripped the electrics

    then she got error code 15 ( need to find my original posting )
    U Tube suggestion was tilt the machine as it might be an air lock

    Then error code 23 appeared

    I did a load of basic checks and checked pump spins inside machine

    dishwasher cleaner is regularily used as is salt filled

    however theres no sound from the pump and machine will not drain

    Having borrowed a multimeter I will see what more I can find tonight

    May still need to know exactly which Dishwashers can be relied on to work without giving trouble there must be some surely ?????

    #426712
    diyisgreat
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    Re: Seimens SN25 M830 UK Dishwasher Error E23 Urgent h

    Grrrrrrrrr

    Cant imagine the thinking that went into putting that machine together
    Talk about make it difficult for repairmen to get at parts they must really curse at this model

    Anyway having started to check the machine logically by unscrewing bits around sump I did find some soggy paper ( must have been a label on a jam jar someone neglected to soak off first )so that could be the culprit

    Have taken sides off and kick plate and plate behind it
    but actually getting the drain pump out is next challenge ………….a bit of advice or link to a U tube bit would be helpful please

    I understand its a bayonet fitting but I don’t do brute force and ignorance ! Heaven knows how engineers get their hands in there

    It would be so easy if the dishwasher base was removable

    What I did notice though was a brownish mucky looking section in the middle of the large white plastic water circulation tank / box on the side and I wonder whether this is also part of the problem

    Is it possible to remove this to flush it out ?
    Have taken a photo so can post a link later if that helps

    #426713
    timdowning
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    Re: Seimens SN25 M830 UK Dishwasher Error E23 Urgent h

    Don’t undo those sump screws…
    That mucky stuff isn’t muck its meant to be like that.
    I think you’ve may have made matters worse.

    #426714
    diyisgreat
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    Re: Seimens SN25 M830 UK Dishwasher Error E23 Urgent h

    Cant see how I can have made matters worse by simply unscrewing the 2 screws on the grey downpipe from back of inside machine and removing bits of paper floating underneath

    What concerns me is the state of what I gather is the pressure chamber in the water .heat exchange tank on the side

    hopefully photo link above

    #426715
    diyisgreat
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    Re: Seimens SN25 M830 UK Dishwasher Error E23 Urgent h

    Please can someone look at the photo I posted and give me an answer

    Got to find a way to fix this machine

    #426716
    Martin
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    Seimens SN25 M830 UK Dishwasher Error E23 Urgent help

    Top centre is the “drainage vent valve” and it does look seriously gunged up. Not sure if it is possible to access to clean? I doubt it. We in the trade normally stick in a new fill/drain matrix. Saves messing with it. 😉

    #426717
    diyisgreat
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    Re: Seimens SN25 M830 UK Dishwasher Error E23 Urgent h

    Ok so could that be the source of the fault rather than the pump
    Or would both be the cause of the problem?

    #426718
    Martin
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    Re: Seimens SN25 M830 UK Dishwasher Error E23 Urgent h

    Tough one, can’t rule either out TBH.

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