Siemens Vs Miele: Help Buying Please

[dutch]

Hi all,

Looking for a decent washing machine, contemplating Siemens at present. Are Miele worth the extra $$ ? Features seem similar, want 1400 speed with at least 6kg capacity. Miele W1714 seems to be the one of the cheapest Miele at £600’ish. Siemens WM14S493 (one down from top of the range) is also about £600. Looking for something v.reliable which isn’t too expensive to fix should it breakdown. From what I’ve read Miele are top quality but cost a lot when they go wrong. Anyone have experience with these brands?

Any advice will be much appreciated, thanks! 😀

[gegsy]

Re: Siemens Vs Miele: Help Buying Please

Hi
Don is the man for this really 😀
IMHO Siemens are good machines and some come with 5 year guarantee 😉

Miele are the best but have pricey spares when out of warranty.

HTH

Greg

[kwatt]

Or ISE10. 😉
http://www.iseappliances.co.uk/index.php?id=1186065672
K.

[don]

Re: Siemens Vs Miele: Help Buying Please

gegsy wrote:Hi
Don is the man for this really 😀
IMHO Siemens are good machines and some come with 5 year guarantee 😉

Miele are the best but have pricey spares when out of warranty.

HTH

Greg

Looks like everything has been covered already 😉

Don

[dutch]

Re: Siemens Vs Miele: Help Buying Please

Thanks v.much for the replies 😀

10 yr warranty with the ISE sounds good! Are they reliable machines though? Need to order fairly sharpish. Looks like it’s down to the Siemens & ISE then. ISE10 is a bit pricey as I want to buy the best machine for £500-£600 max.

Thanks again 😀

[kwatt]

Re: Siemens Vs Miele: Help Buying Please

dutch wrote:10 yr warranty with the ISE sounds good! Are they reliable machines though? Need to order fairly sharpish. Looks like it’s down to the Siemens & ISE then. ISE10 is a bit pricey as I want to buy the best machine for £500-£600 max.

Hi Dutch,

Yes, they are reliable, very reliable. At least as reliable, if not more so than Miele would be but then, if and when the ISE does need a fix you don’t need a second mortgage to pay for it. 😉

I know it’s a bit more but it does carry the ten year warranty and is a lot easier to use.

Both the Siemens and Miele will also take 2 hours plus to complete a normal cotton 40 wash that the ISE does in little over an hour.

HTH

K.

[candyking]

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Hi Dutch,

I’d go with ken on this one, i’ve worked with machines from ISE’s manufacturer for 20 years now, they realy are tops , i have the washing machine , dishwasher and tumble drier, none of them are less than 10 years old, they all look like new, and more importantly perform just as well as they did when they were new.

John

[dutch]

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Thanks all for the replies! There’s a local ISE supplier to me so will pay them a visit…. 😀

[darky]

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Hi Dutch
Seimens do come with 5yrs guarantee as do Miele, i work with both appliances, tha Seimens is made by Bosch, these are much cheaper to repair than Miele, Bosch have a 2yrs guantee, some of the time with Miele you will need a laptop to diagnose some problems, also Miele parts are 3x more expensive, go for the SIEMENS, also Bosch are a lot cheaper to call out if you need them.
Hope this will help

[Osamede]

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I would go with the Miele. All these theoreticals dont mean much if the machine does what it is built to do ie. keep working every day and doesnt break down in the first place.

I’d rather have a washing machine that costs more in the beginning but keeps working and rarely breaks, than one that breaks down more often and is “cheap” to fix. How “cheap” is it to have a washing machine that isnt working? And how “cheap” is it to be waiting at home for a repairman all the time, during which you have to take time off from your job making money?

So “cheap” repairs are a false economy. Get a machine that is designed to last and not keep breaking down in the first place.

The Mieles have a solid track record – and I cannot recall anyone I know with one who has regretted it or had meaningful repair problems, for that matter. Which is why I am getting one as we speak.

Regarding the Bosch, some family friend of ours have one and after a mere couple of years is very regretful as it is quite unreliable. They are going to get the Miele, which they had considered before – except in the time in between they have wasted money buying a Bosch.

Siemens and Bosch are just different brand labels of same product by the same company, probably coming from the same assembly line in same factory. So I wouldnt expect any more from one than the other.

[Penguin45]

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Hi Ossy,
Thanks for your input. Given that you are unable to differentiate between two Mieles in your original post, perhaps you’d like to expand on your extensive knowledge of domestic appliances to justify your comments? Obviously, the combined knowledge of the repairers who actually run this site for the benefit of the public (for free, I might add) is completely lost on you, but if you know something we don’t, we will happily acknowledge it.

Otherwise, you’re trolling and we don’t like that.

Penguin45.

[kwatt]

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Osamede has misunderstood the message Chris. He appears to have assumed that because we say that a machine is cheap to repair that assumes that it will break more, which is totally wrong.

The fact is that all machines break eventually and this we all know and accept that fact. The comments is not about that at all Osamede, it is merely stating that when they do some are a lot cheaper to repair than others.

Some do break more, some less and we try to give people an idea of what to expect and that’s as much as we can do, you either accept it or you don’t.

K.

[Osamede]

Re: Siemens Vs Miele: Help Buying Please

Penguin45 wrote:Hi Ossy,
Thanks for your input. Given that you are unable to differentiate between two Mieles in your original post, perhaps you’d like to expand on your extensive knowledge of domestic appliances to justify your comments? Obviously, the combined knowledge of the repairers who actually run this site for the benefit of the public (for free, I might add) is completely lost on you, but if you know something we don’t, we will happily acknowledge it.

Otherwise, you’re trolling and we don’t like that.

Penguin45.
I am telling you what I have just myself done in a similar situation based on the information and references I was able to find. It isnt random advice I gave you- I just recently paid my cold hard cash for the appliance, based on that assesment.

If providing you with that input is “trolling” , then God bless and good luck to you.

Moreover, if you actually read my other post I ran through my assesment of how two Miele machines differed as best I could tell and asked if there was something ELSE I didnt know. In other words, unlike you, I wasnt waffling over what brand to buy, I was trying to decide which model from a specific manufactuerer to buy. But hey, keep chasing ghosts, “trolls” or whatver. Good luck spending your money. You will need it.

[Penguin45]

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Ho hum.. The ability to acknowledge and discuss other brands is one of those values that we hold rather dear here. If you’d like to discuss or debate please feel free; otherwise, stop reading from the brochure.

Penguin45.

[kwatt]

Re: Siemens Vs Miele: Help Buying Please

But Ossamede, it’s not a similar situation at all, ISE isn’t available where you are so you had a limitation on choice that does not apply to this thread at all.

Fact is that the number of faults on an ISE10 are less over five years than most manufacturers aim or hope to have in the first year. Please make sure that your facts are in order before making sweeping statements on things that you obviously don’t know too much about, certainly not enough to offer an “educated” opinion.

It’s not as “bling” as a Miele either. 😉

K.

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