Smeg, Miele, Siemens: which integrated washer/dryer? Advice

[lbarea]

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Yes, I got that i.e. CDA aren’t as good as Siemens/Miele.

By the way, what about AEG? There machines seem quite reasonable which in turn made me a little suspicious.

Any views on their machines? Are these ones to avoid at all costs?

Thanks

Laurence.

[Goatboy]

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AEG are ok 🙂 They’re alot better than the run-of-the mill pish mentioned in my earlier post.

They used to be a German manufactuer, but are Italian now, and as such, the quality has slipped down a little 😕

I’d say the only manufactuer that could make a machine as good as a Siemens/Miele, would be someone like Asko (unless someone can name another good manufactuer). But I don’t think Asko will make an intergrated W/D.

[lbarea]

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Hold on, what do you mean 1400 rpm is already too fast? As far as I understand it, this equates to drying efficiency B (suggesting that 1600 rpm is A and that it is ok).

Should I go for a 1200 rpm then?

I am now looking at AEG L14710VIT and the AEG L12710VIT.

The only difference I can make out between these are the spin rpms, 1400 compared to 1200. Can someone confirm this?

I am looking at these because of space limitations. The depth will fit my kitchen better, and seeing that they are ok, well, it looks like I’ll have to go with it (unless someone here has any objections which I am unaware of).

Any comments would be appreciated.

Thanks

[Goatboy]

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Spin speed is all a sales gimmick IMO! If I gave you two items of clothes, one spun at 1200, and one spun at 1600, the difference in dryness is hardly noticeable. The difference is probably a couple of minutes extra in a tumble dryer! I don’t think it’s worth the extra strain on the machine…

Goatboy wrote:If you ask engineers for their opinions, they will always pick the reliable choice 😉 We don’t care how it looks or washes, we care about if it works!

Remember this? IMO and IME, machines that spins faster than 1200 have problems, unless the manufactuer has a solid drum design, which can take the extra stress.

Example: Merloni made turd machines for years, with turd drums, that collapsed after 3-7years. Then they put a 1600 spin motor on some machines without strengthening the drum design. The results? Drums collasping in 2 years. And the collapsed drum, means and goosed washer!

So if the machine has a high speed motor, it needs a very solid drum design to go with it.

lbarea wrote:The only difference I can make out between these are the spin rpms, 1400 compared to 1200. Can someone confirm this?

That’s correct! Well. if your struggling for depth, and you haver to have an AEG, so be it 😕

[gadgetfreak]

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don wrote:

Goatboy wrote:
The first thing I saw on that site, was a ‘5-star rating’ for an Indesit intergrated washer/dryer, which is the worst piece-of-crud machine on the market! 🙁

A lot of the model numbers on there are now old ie Hotpoint WD64. If you scroll down a little further Gb the Miele which was listed only got a measly two stars and that is also an old model too. For the latest information and all the thousands of years experience this site has to offer look no further 😀

I wonder how many years experience there is on this site between all the trade members? I bet it would be a very large figure 😯

Don

Coming to notice it the washer dryer thing on the site did bring up a number of old reviews (collector’s items 😉 ) Actually I had typed Miele and a few others on iNods and I found some nice reviews. Yeah but I guess this site perhaps has more on the washers anyways. 🙂 Thought I was helping… Oops!

[Goatboy]

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That’s ok!

It’s just you don’t know who writes these reviews, and their motives. Whether it’s a sales-man, or an engineer?

Luckily, you people know somewhere to get free independent advice 😉

[royo]

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Hi All
New member & I’m still finding my way around.
Impessed with all your helpful advice & I particulaely like GoatBoy – no dis-resepect to others though.
I’m simply a DIY type fella & I have nursed my wife’s Hoover Logik & kept it going for 15 years. It lost the nylon /plastic guide on one side suspension about 5 years ago & has kept going without it but with occasional un-balanced load.
The un-balance load (usually) towels is now more frequent & I wondered what the cost of spares would be for a DIY job. Would it be wise to replace the full suspension on both sides. Would the best advice be to get a new machine – say Siemens?
Thanks
Royo

[Penguin45]

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Much as you may like Goatboy, he’s far too young to remember Logic suspensions………. 😀

The spring guides are still available – p/no 09003401, about a fiver a throw. The repair kit for the suspension is 09049313 and contains all the rubbers, pivots and washers to do both legs. It’s about £17 from memory. It’s a tank out job to do it, not difficult but requires plenty of patience. An email to spares@ukwhitegoods.co.uk for up to date pricing and ordering.

Replacement? Well this thread is about integrated machines, but the general principals still apply – you gets what you pays for these days. So – anything under £250 I’d be very suspicious of. Bosch is generally popular among us engineers – reasonably reliable, sensible prices and ease of spares availability swing us! Miele is far and away the best and seem to go on for ever. Spares prices are horrific however – if required.

Worth checking out our own machine though – the ISE washer. Check the top of the home page or http://www.iseappliances.co.uk.

HTH, power off if you’re going to keep the old girl running.

Regards,
Penguin45.

[royo]

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Thanks Penquin
Roy

[united4ever]

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Goatboy wrote:

lbarea wrote:
The Siemens WDi1440GB looks good but has an Energy rating of C it also looks a bit too deep for comfort but I’ll double check.

:tup: Twould be my choice!

Don’t worry about the C for energy rating. That’s good for a washer/dryer 😉 If it fits, get it (IMHO).

This sounds like a good one but is above my budget, I know you get what you pay for but, with a budget of £500 is there anything you would recommend (obviously it won’t be as good as the WDi440GB). Thanks

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