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June 21, 2011 at 10:24 am #63481
twicknix
ParticipantLike most of us independence engineers, going out to people homes and fixing up appliances. Some would leave the old spare parts with the customer and some take it back with them,
I read with interests that you would require a waste carrier licence for carrying rubbish in the back of the van.
At the moment I do not have a licence or trade waste agreement in place as I leave the waste with the customers. However I do get quite a bit of packaging that comes with the parts I ordered, it’s becoming more frequent so I am left with the issue on how to dispose it without the neighbours being suspicious of huge pile of cardboard boxes on the doorstep recycling.
My question to you guys, if I am to get a waste agreement, do I get a skip or have a general trade waste bag? What are the costs involved in setting it up? Are any components from appliances are classed controlled waste like PCB board, if it’s PCB a controlled waste – how do i dispose it? Most PCB refurbisher like QER and EMW wants at least 20 boards. What do I do with 2 pcb board off a hotpoint?
June 21, 2011 at 1:38 pm #353895robbra
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Last year I got a licence, £150 for three years.
I leave packaging with customers but get the parts. I got to a scrap dealers with machines although I keep motors and elements separately.
In March I got £220 for elements and motors and machines get about £10 each.
It’s all legal now so no worries and extra income.
RobJune 21, 2011 at 9:40 pm #353896spimps
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For cardboard have a search for a local re cycling business,if you hav the cerriers licence you can take it there and save the cost of them collecting it.
June 21, 2011 at 10:52 pm #353897Allsorts
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twicknix wrote:Are any components from appliances are classed controlled waste like PCB board, if it’s PCB a controlled waste – how do i dispose it? Most PCB refurbisher like QER and EMW wants at least 20 boards. What do I do with 2 pcb board off a hotpoint?
If the boards remain in the machine then they are not generally classified as controlled waste.. or at least it is generally overlooked (but I do beleive that is not far from changing)… However, if the boards are PCB only without the machine it belonged to then it is almost certain to be classified as controlled waste…
If you feel that you are going to have any problems disposing of the boards then by all means you can contact us at Allsorts… Put whatever boards you wish to dispose of into a box and send them to us… we will takeover responsibility for the waste boards and issue you with a Duty of Care (Waste Transfer) Note.
George
June 22, 2011 at 6:53 am #353898twicknix
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Thanks guys,
TBH – I had this WF000G which I claimed it back from a customer as it had a brand new tub in it but the motor was busted. It got to the point it BER. I had it in the garden covered up, until recently another WF busted drum, I used the drum from the garden for this other WF machine, it worked a treat.
I removed the boards thinking I would get few quids which I found out later that I need at least 20. The machine casing went to the scrap man who goes around shouting “any old iron!”.
Do I need to register with the local authority on my waste or do I need to make formal arrangement in order to get duty of care certificate?
June 22, 2011 at 3:30 pm #353899Allsorts
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With controlled waste you will need to pass it on to someone with the relevant authority to either take responsibility or to treat the waste.. This will normally incur charges.
We can issue you a Duty of Care Note if you post them to us.. or find someone who is a registered DCF or ATF that can do it for you.
George
June 22, 2011 at 3:38 pm #353900robbra
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Just taken a small box of modules to the scrap yard £22, and yes they are authorised
June 23, 2011 at 11:17 am #353901Allsorts
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robbra wrote:Just taken a small box of modules to the scrap yard £22, and yes they are authorised
What!!! They charged you £22 or they paid you £22?
George
June 23, 2011 at 12:23 pm #353902robbra
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Paid me :rotfl:
I may be silly looking but I ain’t daft 😆June 23, 2011 at 2:12 pm #353903Allsorts
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Was it just modules/boards? .. What did they weigh them in as?
George
June 23, 2011 at 2:19 pm #353904robbra
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Mainly modules and a couple of Hotpoint timers. As they weren’t computer boards they put it as misc aluminium/steel scrap. I thought £22 was pretty good.
June 23, 2011 at 2:32 pm #353905Allsorts
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I think £22 is amazing since most of what you discarded was plastic and electronics…
There is no value to the boards at all (except for the parts that are on the boards) and (since we do not charge for their recycling) we get loads sent to us through the post for recycling from people and companies who don’t want to have to pay to dispose of them. I have never before heard of them being scrapped for money… computer boards yes, because they contain gold, but not modules.
George
June 23, 2011 at 6:40 pm #353906twicknix
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Allsorts wrote:
There is no value to the boards at all (except for the parts that are on the boards) and (since we do not charge for their recycling) we get loads sent to us through the post for recycling from people and companies who don’t want to have to pay to dispose of them. I have never before heard of them being scrapped for money… computer boards yes, because they contain gold, but not modules.
GeorgeNot wanting to poke my nose, but if loads of people send you boards as they do not want to pay, how do you make money from it?
Anyway, can you PM me your address that I can send out the boards to you for your disposal in exchange for a certificate?
June 23, 2011 at 6:56 pm #353907twicknix
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I realised that I have not explained myself well when I asked about registering with the local authority.
I meant for trade waste in general and the waste agreement in general like is it a legal requirement to notify council on who’s waste disposal firm?
what can be thrown away in the general trade waste and do I require a trade bin?
What are the cost involved roughly?
My background was in catering and food retailing so the waste agreement is different than disposing old parts.
June 24, 2011 at 7:02 am #353908Allsorts
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I meant for trade waste in general and the waste agreement in general like is it a legal requirement to notify council on who’s waste disposal firm?
Yes, notification is a legal requirement (only if they ask)… but if they are a responsible council they will ask, but they will also try to sell you their services.
What are the cost involved roughly?
Our local council charge us £94 per year for 50 Green Trade Waste sacks ..
what can be thrown away in the general trade waste and do I require a trade bin?
We can place what we like into these on the proviso that the bag can be tied and there are no contents that are breaking the law. Quantity determines the need for a solid bin.
My background was in catering and food retailing so the waste agreement is different than disposing old parts
Yes, but not a lot .. Food has other risks … Disposal is similar but not the same .. The modules contain flame-retardant chemicals and other environmental contaminants that disperse when the boards get wet and start to corrode, it is possible then for the poisons to contaminate the ground.
Call your local council and ask for the recycling department.
Not wanting to poke my nose, but if loads of people send you boards as they do not want to pay, how do you make money from it?
We do not make any money on the waste boards that are sent to us via UKW DASA WTA or non-affiliated engineers .. The boards are placed into safe storage until they are collected by correctly authorised treatment agents who do not charge either Allsorts or Secondhandheaven for their treatment.
I have sent you the full address of where to send the waste boards for free disposal.
George
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