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October 28, 2012 at 6:57 am #72191
twicknix
ParticipantI keep seeing machines advertised as recon, in my mind does this means new door seal, brushes, belt, new bearings and a good scrub. But I’ve see many of them on sale with old door seals – you can tell from experience.
What’s the difference between recon and second hand repaired appliance?
October 28, 2012 at 7:23 am #383772timdowning
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Trade or private sale.
October 28, 2012 at 7:47 am #383773Jackal
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The spelling, one us spelt R E C O N the other us spelt …….
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http://www.lofra-uk.co.ukOctober 28, 2012 at 10:20 am #383774twicknix
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October 28, 2012 at 10:38 am #383775Martin
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twicknix wrote:in my mind does this means new door seal, brushes, belt, new bearings and a good scrub.
The definition of the word ‘reconditioned’ means ‘ to restore to a good working condition’ however likely as not your expectations of others may fall well short of the mark. 🙂
October 28, 2012 at 2:54 pm #383776twicknix
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So if you are reconditioning the appliance then what would you do?
a) Fix it if it was just a blockage in the pump (clear the blockage) and sell it as it is?
b) Same as above along with mouldy door seal which you replace then sell?
c) Same as above clear the blockage and clean motor then replace the brushes, door seal, descale, new belt, and a good scrub then sell it?Just curious on the level of standard as everyone have different standards and like you said Martin, depending on people expectations. I draw my thoughts from seeing reconditioned appliances at charity shops and small second hand shops and noticed the difference on the standards and the all used the same word as Reconditioned.
October 28, 2012 at 3:30 pm #383777Jackal
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Martin wrote:
The definition of the word ‘reconditioned’ means ‘ to restore to a good working condition’but that is YOUR definition, it is not a legal one as no definition exists within the industry, thus the quality of the goods offered WILL always differ from one seller to another.
The term reconditioned can mean a multitude of things ranging from a bag of manure to a fully graded appliance and all unsundry in between and hence my original post on this thread.
Caveat Emptor and all that!
Jackal
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http://www.lofra-uk.co.ukOctober 28, 2012 at 4:10 pm #383778Martin
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twicknix wrote:So if you are reconditioning the appliance then what would you do?
Think very seriously as to there being any viability in continuing?
October 28, 2012 at 4:13 pm #383779Allsorts
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It is best to use the phrase refurbished when selling washers that have been repaired… As in, it has been refurbished with working parts, new parts, replacement parts, to make it into a working order again.
The general population consider that reconditioned means to put back into original condition.
MARTIN.. 99{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d} of what I sell is refurbished machines ranging from £80 – £400
George
October 28, 2012 at 6:00 pm #383780twicknix
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Interesting… Perhaps I thought wrong? I may have wrongly assumed that reconditioned or refurbished meant that bringing the appliance back to as new standard so one would expect the appliance was given new lease of life aka new door seal, bearings, belt and a good scrub?
October 28, 2012 at 6:23 pm #383781stratfordgirl
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The Sale of Goods Act still applies to second hand goods so the machine must be sold in satisfactory condition, taking account the price paid. So, for example, if the motor brushes wore out, the door hinge broke or the bearings failed within 6 months, the buyer would probably be entitled to a free repair.
October 28, 2012 at 7:34 pm #383782twicknix
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stratfordgirl wrote:The Sale of Goods Act still applies to second hand goods so the machine must be sold in satisfactory condition, taking account the price paid. So, for example, if the motor brushes wore out, the door hinge broke or the bearings failed within 6 months, the buyer would probably be entitled to a free repair.
A huge gamble on selling reconditioned appliance so to my mind, it is worthwhile to replace those common parts to avoid being called out again in six months time! Is it legal requirement that the machine is to work for at least six months? To me it is rather difficult to judge as some people would use the machine very heavily and if not then abuse it a lot more than a brand new appliance.
October 28, 2012 at 7:53 pm #383783stratfordgirl
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The only significance to six months is that, under the Sale of Goods Act, if a fault comes to light, up to 6 months the onus is on the seller to prove the fault was not present at time of sale, but after 6 months, the the onus is on the buyer to prove it was.
October 28, 2012 at 7:53 pm #383784Allsorts
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According to my Trading Standards office, I can sell a washer at £80 with a 1 month guarantee and a washer at £85 or over with a 3 month warrantee, and there is no problem.
With secondhand goods, if a customer accepts the length of your warrantee then they accept it under those terms.
It is best for you to change the door lock and the motor brushes… The seal need only be changed if it is damaged or mouldy.
It is generally common sense.
George
October 28, 2012 at 7:58 pm #383785stratfordgirl
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It is true that the price paid has a bearing (excuse the pun!), but any warranty offered does not get round the Sale of Goods Act requirement for satisfactory quality.
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