Zan FL1084 timer makes unusual clicking noise > not advan

[leavemetogetonwithit]

Prod. no. 914780083 serial 43000667

Reported fault is spin goes on endlessly. There was also something about timer sticking during wash/rinse but I did not confirm this.

Went to it yesterday. Tested timer motor >OK & 240v to same >OK
Noted that during spin timer makes fairly clunky sort of clicking sound at intervals of several seconds.
There is a solenoid on back of timer which does not appear to be the source of the noise. (B****r, just realised I didn’t think to check its coil 😳 ).
Can the seperate module in base of machine affect the timer advance? (Too rushed yesterday to get cabinet off). Is there anything else likely to be involved?
Going back next week about Weds. Any help appreciated.
Mike.

[Phidom]

Re: Zan FL1084 timer makes unusual clicking noise > not a

I would just send the timer away for test/repair. It sounds like stripped teeth on one of the gears.

[farmboy]

Re: Zan FL1084 timer makes unusual clicking noise > not a

Yep, timer’s knackered – the module is purely for motor control it doesnt advance the timer.

[leavemetogetonwithit]

Re: Zan FL1084 timer makes unusual clicking noise > not a

OK but could an o/c solenoid on the back of the timer cause this?Is it a “timer hold” solenoid or a timer “allow advance” one? Sorry to be a pain but this is all info we could all do with having in this searchable database if we’re going to stay ahead of the DIY brigade. 🙂 (I’ve probably got an old timer hanging around here somewhere with the same coil on it).
Thanks,
Mike.

[Penguin45]

Re: Zan FL1084 timer makes unusual clicking noise > not a

Stop solenoid as part of heater circuit.

Chris.

[leavemetogetonwithit]

Re: Zan FL1084 timer makes unusual clicking noise > not a

Thanks Chris.
Sounds like I better ring Tony.
Mike.

[leavemetogetonwithit]

Re: Zan FL1084 timer makes unusual clicking noise > not a

Got replacement timer from EMW and fitted it.
Still no joy. Replacement timer also fails to advance to off after spin. ❗ It also makes the clicking noise though it is not as loud.
Rang EMW and they suggested a possible heater/thermostat problem. Heater checks out OK (23 ohm insulation fine). Thermostat has three terminals (two temp?) and appears OK (assuming it is two n/c switches).
Am baffled. Any suggestions?
Thanks for the help.
Mike.

[farmboy]

Re: Zan FL1084 timer makes unusual clicking noise > not a

Still sounds exactly like a timer fault to me.

Used to find timer dial stuck to the fascia when someone spills coffee/squash down the front which then wears the cogs in the timer as it struggles to turn the dial. Was the timer new or refurbished?

Stop solenoid should only be coming in at the beginning of the wash and the stats control the stop solenoid so if they fail it would either jam on heating phase or not stop to heat at all.

[Phidom]

Re: Zan FL1084 timer makes unusual clicking noise > not a

Another thing to check is the alignment of the timer to the fascia. I had a Tricity Bendix machine that had been laid down on its front and bent the timer bracket so the knob was catching on the fascia. I’ve been to a few machines where the knob was swimming in congealed cooking oil.

[leavemetogetonwithit]

Re: Zan FL1084 timer makes unusual clicking noise > not a

Thanks for the help.
The dial was indeed sticky and I think this caused original fault.
Discovered this while fitting (EMW refurbished) timer. But cleaned and oiled dial before testing and switched to spin and waited and waited …and could feel clicking through timer knob as machine carried on seemingly endless spin at 1000 revs..
Am wondering if refurbished timer works in “laboratory/test rig” environment but not when installed. 💡 Maybe even that cam thing is catching somewhere.
Guess there’s only one way to find out, but it’ll have to wait till next week.
Will also check bracket alignment.
Mike.

[leavemetogetonwithit]

Re: Zan FL1084 timer makes unusual clicking noise > not a

Relieved of any further worry about this one as customer decided to knock it on the head and buy new. Praise be for small mercies. Luckily I got my call out fee before leaving last visit. Sometimes I think we spend too much time piddling around with these unusual faults – time which we could spend more lucratively passing over to go to easier jobs. It is of course helpful to build up a store of such experience but with more and more makes and models you’re less likely to get the same faults repeated.
Mike.

[Phidom]

Re: Zan FL1084 timer makes unusual clicking noise > not a

But you don’t want to get a reputation for only being able to tackle the simpler faults. Some of the repairers round here claim to do fridge and freezer repairs but they don’t do re-gassing. I would not take on the work unless I knew I could replace the defective component, eg compressor.

[Tony_EMW]

Re: Zan FL1084 timer makes unusual clicking noise > not a

Don’t forget that it’s absolutely essential that when fitting these timers that you have the locking washers fitted to the 2 screws holding the timer in place. Failure to put these back and the extra 1mm of screw catches the cam and stops the timer moving on – hence the loud click. Tony EMW

[leavemetogetonwithit]

Re: Zan FL1084 timer makes unusual clicking noise > not a

Yep, I read that on the sticker on the side of the timer before fitting and I was already aware of it anyway. Funny enough I had to hunt through my box for some suitable spring washers as there didn’t seem to be any with the original screws. (They were the type with serrations (sp?) on the contact face of the screwhead anyway and I think they were relatively short so it’s possible that Zanussi have sussed that problem by now).
Mike.

[leavemetogetonwithit]

Re: Zan FL1084 timer makes unusual clicking noise > not a

Phidom wrote: Some of the repairers round here claim to do fridge and freezer repairs but they don’t do re-gassing. I would not take on the work unless I knew I could replace the defective component, eg compressor.

Er,yeah I’m guilty of that. Fridge/freezer repairs appears in my ad. as an “also” item. I’m quite frank about it when they ring up though and if I can tell over the phone that it’s probably not a stat or starter then I give them at least one phone number of a local refrigeration specialist. I’m tending to redirect quite a lot these days what with this frost free stuff and all the fancy electronics. Before I accept a job I always ask if it’s worth spending £X on to eliminate the “rusting hulk with door hanging off” type jobs.
If I get to a job and find it’s beyond my capabilities I don’t charge.
Mike.

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