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busybr
ParticipantRe: Water heater faliure
Hi Kwatt
No need at all to apologize for the honesty. There is nothing in what you’ve said that I disagree with.
You hit the nail right on the head though, that it comes down to facts & figures and what can be absorbed as a business cost. I am not saying it is right, but given the price-point and almost immediate availability of products such as washing machines, it’s not hard to see why the option of buying something relativity cheap, wearing it out, then dropping into Currys to buy another -to take home there & then- is rather attractive.
I do of course ‘get’ the whole situation from the POV of a repair person who can remember good quality appliances which were made to be repaired etc. and that it is wasteful to replace appliances to the extent that we are doing, but for me, the bit that cripples me is the ‘down time’ of something like a washing machine being out of action as without it, I am losing money. I’m self-employed, so time spent off work waiting for repairs is lost money. You guys know how it is. Doing my accounts for last year, I see I spent over £180 on footwear, and that was just for me. Every shoe was worn until it split through…sometimes it really does come down to looking at the cost of X against the expense of Y. 😐
Speaking of the older Bosch machines, when I was a demonstrator back in the 1990’s, I bought a Bosch WFF2001 when they became discontinued. This was April 1999 and the Co-Op had them on a bulk end-of-line special. That machine was built like the proverbial brick outhouse…I only got rid of it (to my partners mother) as we moved house about 18 months later and I couldn’t access the door from where it was situated at the new house (the WFF models had the door hinged on the right for some reason). Anyway, said machine was still working as of two months ago, until ‘mum’ decided to replace it. I have no idea what was wrong with it either (she lives 200 miles away from me), she just said “it stopped” one day and she bought a new one. 😕
busybr
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Yes…many years ago -when I left school- I worked in a vacuum & washer repair shop (that’s how I know how to do the very basics) and they had comm sticks. I could never touch them, th feel of them used to make my blood run cold!!!
For several years now I have been on the ‘other’ side of appliances, running a domestic cleaning service – which is why I end up battering my washing machines…I have to wash work clothes which are changed at least once a day, plus mops & cloths from cleaning…and all manner of other regular laundry we get through in a week.
I have just put new carbon brushes in my mums old Zanussi Aquacycle…it’s been in my garage for a few weeks since she bought a new one. Anyway, it’s running like new and I’ll use that now until I get the Bosch sorted out. It’s very noisy though 🙁
busybr
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Yes, how do they work?
busybr
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Hi Drdrill.
Ah well you see, it is the washing performance which leads me to Bosch. They do wash so well. I once had a Whirlpool and I never thought the wash was good. My comments about Bosch washing machine brushes weren’t internet based though – they are from my own experiences; I know people who’ve had this trouble & in 2004 I had a Bosch ‘written off’ by domestic and general, because the engineer said that Bosch motors never like new brushes when the old ones have been run right down.
In 2010 I had to scrap a 5-and-a-bit year old Bosch because the same thing had happened…In light of my earlier experiences, I did change the brushes on the strike of three years old, but the second time they went, they went after less than three years use & caught me unaware. I was disappointed about that as the washing machine was fantastic – despite being one of the cheapest models available at the time I bought it.
busybr
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helo_75 wrote:yea, good idea… go to argos and buy a bush… sounds like bosch doesnt it…. does it not bother you about the environment / natural wasteage etc, go buy one, and see the difference in just about every possible way
No, it doesn’t bother me in the slightest. I make efforts to save the planet in other ways (you should see my car, it’s a tiny old 1.2L), we all have to consume something sometime.
It is not my fault that things are being made so it’s not worth the expense of a repair. I mean everyone I know who’s had new brushes in a Bosch motor has had to replace the whole machine within 6 months as the brushes won’t take. Other washing machines don’t have this bother…put a new set in & off it goes…who’s fault is that? I’d love to see a time when we had major appliances mended like we did when I was a lad, by a bloke who ran a local vac & washer shop…*sigh* those were the days. Unfortunately my life has to go on and I can’t wait for that day to come again. Anyway, the appalling quality of washing machines means we’re probably only scrapping half as much a machine as we did years ago.
As for ISE and Meile, yes, thanks, I’ve been studying those 😀busybr
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Hi Martin
I can do basic repairs myself, like the brushes, but you see I bought this model as the motor is brushless…last two Bosch machines I had I ruined the motors by not realizing the brushes were worn out. Not like other makes when one just pops a new set in & away it goes, these motors wouldn’t ‘take’ the brushes.
However, I am fast wondering if -with the amount of washing I do- and the price of new machines, whether I shouldn’t just buy cheap and keep buying a new machine every 18-months or so…no, I don’t run a laundrette or guest house, but yes, the use it gets is on the brink of commercial usage. Thanks.
busybr
ParticipantRe: Daewoo DWD-G1241 switching off
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Thanks, for that. There is no error code, sorry. Doesn’t even get to wash, never mind rinse….it works for about 30 seconds, starts to heat, then just switches off. Drain filter checked & cleared -first thing I did- but no joy. I keep this as a spare machine…it did this once before but did right itself for no reason. It’s be standing in the garage for 10 months now and when I bought it back into the house to use, this is what it keeps doing. 🙁
busybr
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Hello Martin
Thank you for this. I took the element out and yes, there is scale on it. As for your other comments…well…
I only use the full-cycle cotton wash. I do about 10 loads a week at 60’C.
I also do at least 2 more loads at 90’C. I don’t need to tell you that the machine looks all shiny and new inside the door seal and soap drawer then 😀 Certianly keeps it free of any mould.
I figured I overwork my washing machines…as you say damned if you do…but TBH I buy appliances to use them, not to look at them, so yeah, they get a good work-out. Just seems odd that they aren’t up to doing the work they allow the user to do. I have long wondered if they are built only to withstand the bulk of the laundry being done on quick wash???
Thanks for reply. Bosch can come out Wednesday, but I can have the part to fit myself by tomorrow. I only have about 6 weeks warranty left…Am now wondering if I should insure the machine? It’s not so much the money as it is being without the washer when it goes wrong…as you can tell from the number of loads I said I do, I am reliant on a washing machine 😥
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