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Re: Recommended Washer(s) With More User Friendly Controls?
Ah . . yes, that does help! 🙂
However, the problem of buttons coming off clothes during washes is still a risk. Although that risk can be minimised by checking the integrity of the thread holding the buttons before washing.
Anyway, I would be keen to hear from bigsmokepiper or anyone else who could advise how it is possible to tell if I have an updated model Electrolux EWF1090 washer that prevents coins and buttons etc. from becoming caught between the drums. ❓
Anyone, please?
Re: Recommended Washer(s) With More User Friendly Controls?
On further research from posts at these forums and from web searches, I have narrowed the choice of washers down to Asko (W6222 or W6342), or Electrolux (EWF1090). The LG washers I was considering also do not appear to have all the features I prefer, so they have been eliminated.
Regarding the Electrolux EWF1090 washer, I believe the main problem with these washers is the tendency for coins, buttons etc to become trapped between the outer and inner drums, and cause the inner drum to seize or fail to rotate. However, it is my understanding that this issue has been rectified in the latest models of the EWF1090 series.
IF I wind up buying an Electrolux EWF1090 washer, how do I know if I have the latest model that prohibits small loose items becoming trapped between the drums (without resorting to loose coins and buttons test)? After a certain serial number on the washer perhaps?
Depending on how much I realise on the sale of my Bosch, will in turn determine whether I go for an Electrolux or an Asko.
Re: Recommended Washer(s) With More User Friendly Controls?
Thanks for that!
Depending on what happens with the sale of my Bosch, I may go for a Asko washer. Miele are just a bit too pricey for me at this time, although Asko washers are not much cheaper!
Re: Recommended Washer(s) With More User Friendly Controls?
kwatt wrote: . .
The Bosch isn’t the best machine IMO but it’s not rubbish by a long way. . .K.IYO, what are the best washers, please?
bigsmokepiker wrote: . .
Your in NZ Youve got Heaps H2O
I dont think the Government will be handing RebatesGenerally, NZ does have good supply of water. However, some Eastern areas of both islands have marginal supply. Also, electricity supply is becoming marginal in some areas. If any rebates were to be offered, then those marginal areas should be the prime recipients.
At this stage, washers I’ve short-listed for replacing the Bosch are Electrolux EWF1090, and LG WD1018. Main criteria for short-listing are good number of wash programmes offered; good range of spin speeds; control panel layout is uncluttered; controls are easy to see and use, and have good feedback when operated (especially pushbuttons).
Re: Recommended Washer(s) With More User Friendly Controls?
Thanks for everyones comments.
Regardless of the reasons for incorporating ‘soft touch’ pushbuttons, I still don’t like the ‘feel’ of them!
I like front loader washers because of their low use of water and detergent. Also they are gentler on clothes. That is why I changed from a top loader to a front loader.
I believe Australia has rebates, but here in New Zealand there are no rebates available (at least not that I’m aware of)!? Typical of this ^&&{e5d1b7155a01ef1f3b9c9968eaba33524ee81600d00d4be2b4d93ac2e58cec2d}#$# government here, they only tax you left, right and centre, and don’t give back to the people!!!! 👿
Unfortunately, the range of washer brands and models available here in NZ is limited (smaller population and therefore smaller market). The only “reliable” brands I know of that are available are – Bosch, Miele, Asko (a bit difficult to get), and AEG (very difficult to get).
The small dark window at the top of the pushbuttons do indeed light up when the buttons have been pressed (except for the Start/Pause button window, which lights up when a wash programme has been selected).
Currently, my Bosch washer is on offer to several possible interested parties. We’ll see if it sells. If so, then the only problem now is to find an alternative washer with which I’m happy with (reliable, pushbuttons that depress a little?, optional reduction in wash times, variety of synthetic and delicate wash programmes).
Re: Recommended Washer(s) With More User Friendly Controls?
Thanks for your comments.
Having a program option labelled “synthetic” is for convenience. Similarly, having pushbuttons that depress when pressed is a preference.
Ultimately, it is the performance and reliability of the washer which is important.
The Bosch was purchased because of its reputation for good reliability. Plus it was not too expensive.
Miele washers were considered, but they are too expensive (starting from NZ $2000) to purchase.
Many other washer brands were considered, but even those with pushbuttons that depress, and those with ‘synthetic’ program setting labels, were rejected because of reports (here on these forums, and elsewhere) of poor reliability.
Even the suggested LG brand washers are apparently not particularly reliable.
So I am staying with the Bosch for now, until something else turns up (if it turns up).
Re: Recommended Washer(s) With More User Friendly Controls?
At this time, I have eliminated AEG, Bosch, and Miele brand washers because they do not have a specific program setting for synthetics.
After further research, the following washer brands have been shortlisted as possible Bosch washer replacements. These brands include a specific program for synthetics.
Asko
Electrolux
LG
Samsung
WhirlpoolMy understanding from researching these forums, the ‘web, and talking to various people, the most reliable brands in order of most reliable first are –
Asko (most reliable)
Electrolux
Whirlpool
LG
Samsung (least reliable)However, I have conflicting information on the reliability of these brands. So can anyone (particularly those who service these washers), confirm/advise on the relative reliability of the above washer brands.
Once I have a clearer idea of which brand(s) to aim for, I’ll then finalise washer model(s) for the ‘final cut’.
Re: Recommended Washer(s) With More User Friendly Controls?
Thanks for your comments!
I was told by the washer dealer here that synthetics should be washed using the “Delicate/Silk” program. I don’t know what the difference in wash cycles are between “Delcate/Silk” and “Easycare”?
BTW, the Bosch “user manual” is nothing more than a folded card with about half a dozen or so pages of unusually presented information which seems (to me) to be incomplete. The layout is a bit gaudy also. The user manual is another thing which I don’t like either!
From my preliminary research into possible alternative washers, the Ariston/Indesit brands may not be suitable as far as features are concerned. And, their (apparent) lack of reliability is also of concern.
At this time, I believe an Electrolux model EWF1495 (don’t know the equivalent model in Europe/UK), may be a realistic alternative washer. It has buttons which depress when pressed, it has a program setting for synthetic, and another for delicates. And even better, I believe it allows users to progam/adjust times for any or all wash cycles!! EDIT: On further investigation, it appears that the EWF1495 does NOT allow adjustment of wash times (apart from main wash program settings). Fudge!
Although perhaps not as reliable as the Bosch, the Electrolux washer may be the best viable alternative at this time?
Anyway, I’ve decided to replace my Bosch washer. So it is now up for sale.
Re: Bosch WAE24460AU Washer Vibration
Just a quick update.
A builder has had a look, and has determined that the laundry floor has insufficient support. Extra piles and floor bearer will have to be installed.
It would seem the previous occupants, who renovated the house, did not quite comply with building regulations as far as spacing and number of piles are concerned. However, the regulations back then (~ 17 years ago), may have been different and a bit more lenient??
Anyway, new piles and bearer should be going in soon, which should (hopefully) minimize noticed vibration while the washer spins.
Re: Bosch WAE24460AU Washer Vibration
Thanks for your comments.
The installation technician removed all four transit/transportation bolts; I double checked that during installation. The technician also “leveled” the washer by adjusting the washers feet and locking them in place; again I double checked that the washer did not move while pushing from sides and corners.
This leaves the floor as the “problem” here. So something will have to be done to reinforce it (such as using a sizable offcut to spread the load, as you suggested, thanks). I’ll also look further into other (expensive?) floor reinforcing options.
Re: Fisher and Paykel Front Loading Washing Machines???
Miele is a good brand, but their washer prices (purchase, parts, labour) are a bit too expensive for me. But most Bosch washers are fairly expensive also! 🙁
Depending on finances at the time of purchase (which may not be for a month or so), I may have to downgrade to something like an AEG or similar spec’d washer. However, my preference at this time is still for a Bosch.
Re: Fisher and Paykel Front Loading Washing Machines???
Well spotted!! 🙂
Yes, as you say, Bosch would be the better choice here.
Anyway, Bosch machines tend to be the most reliable washers here according to local surveys regardless of country of origin (probably China?).
Re: Fisher and Paykel Front Loading Washing Machines???
Thanks for your comments!
Yes, the New Zealand website does not appear to have any information on front loading washing machines. However, the Australian website shows at least two models that are (supposedly) available.
I brought this question up as I came across, by chance, references to a model FW1800 front loading washing machine. Prior to this I was never aware of the existence of F&P front loading washing machines.
After brief web searches, the only website that appeared to have information on these front loading washing machines is the Australian F&P website. I could not find specific details on model “FW1800” however?
I was also wondering whether these Australian front loaders are just “rebadged” (generic) models!? In which case there may be concern regarding their reliabilty! :rolls:
Actually, I am looking at getting a brushless motor Bosch washing machine to replace my current F&P top loader. My F&P machine is a bit hard on washing, so that is why I am probably going for a reliable, easy on clothes front loading washing machine.
