[Soulman]

Re: Hotpoint WF860P Drum not turning.

Anybody ?

[Soulman]

Re: WF860P NOT SPINNING

Ok guys, for your information.

The motor was indeed the problem.
I have this morning fitted a replacement motor (£25 Delivered / Ebay) and the machine works perfectly / spins once more.

For £25 I’m well happy with the (Used) motor that I bought off Ebay, came next day and was very well packaged.

The only sign of anything being amiss with the old motor was that the windings on One side were much darker in colour than the other, which would perhaps point to them getting very hot ?

Anyhow the machine is back up and running so all’s good.

I’d like to thank the people (Particularly Martin) that made suggestions as to what might be the cause of the problem.

Regards, Soulman.

[Soulman]

Re: WF860P NOT SPINNING

Thank you for the replies.

Heater seems to work fine during wash cycle (Heating water) so isn’t open circuit.

With regard to the suggested heater insulation fault, I’m only using my limited knowledge of electrics here, but if the heater element had an insulation fault / current leakage to earth, would this not trip the circuit breaker at the distribution board / fuse box ?

Regards, Soulman.

[Soulman]

Re: WF860P NOT SPINNING

timdowning wrote:I would be checking the heater.

Thanks for the reply.

I have run the machine with the heater disconnected (On the advice of EMW before I bought the replacement main controller PCB from them) and it made no difference, the machine would still not spin.

Have fitted the replacement main controller PCB this afternoon and the problem persists.

All suggestions are gratefully received.

Regards, Soulman.

[Soulman]

Re: WF860P NOT SPINNING

Thank you for the reply Martin.

Once I had fitted the new main controller without it resolving the problem I was leaning towards investigating if the motor was somehow at fault.

I don’t have your experience and my thoughts were purely intuition / guesswork.
Your explanation is most welcome as although I might have thought the motor was somehow causing the problem I would not have had the knowledge as to why.

I will turn my attention to the motor at my earliest opportunity (Probably a couple of days)and post back to let you know how I’ve got on.

In the meantime Martin, please could you explain why the motor would be drawing too much current and would it be possible to repair the motor or better to simply replace it.

Thanks in advance, Soulman.

[Soulman]

Re: WF860P NOT SPINNING

Ok UK Whitegooders, I fitted the new main controller module / PCB this afternoon and it has made no difference whatsoever, the machine behaves exactly as it did before 🙁

So could any of you good people suggest what area I could / should investigate next in my mission to discover what is causing this problem.

Thank you in advance, Soulman.

[Soulman]

Re: WF860P NOT SPINNING

Thanks for the reply Martin.

I am by no means an expert and anything that is not obvious I always ask about on here as usually someone has come across or have experience of the same problem before and can offer advice / a solution.
Unfortunately on this occasion that does not seem to be the case.
I did suspect that the Main controller PCB could be the problem, bearing in mind the fact that the fault was originally intermittent and now appears to have become permanent seems to me to point to something (Component / Relay) breaking down and eventually failing completely.
I have this afternoon spoken to EMW (Main module suppliers) with regard to the fault and was advised to first disconnect the heater element and run the spin cycle again to see if this cured the problem, it didn’t but apparently has been known to.

Consequently I have ordered a replacement main controller PCB and once fitted I will post back to inform if this solved the problem or not.

Regards, Soulman.

[Soulman]

Re: WF860P NOT SPINNING

Thank you for the reply.

Other than having to replace the control module a couple of years ago due to the dreaded relay fault that causes repeated heater element failure and the aforementioned recent drum bearing replacement the machine has been very reliable considering I’ve had it some years now and it has been hammered in terms of usage.

With regard to present fault, would you think that the problem was somewhere within the main control module or are there other electronics that could be the cause. (Program / Display PCB)

Regards, Soulman.

[Soulman]

Re: WF860P NOT SPINNING

Anybody ?

[Soulman]

Re: Hotpoint WF860

Thank you.

So this faulty / sticking heater relay could be causing the element to fail, is this correct ?

Please don’t think I’m doubting you lads but from what I have read earlier in the thread, a fault on the main controller PCB is very unlikely to cause / have this effect on the heater element.

Again, as mentioned earlier in the thread, the F-07 fault code is shown but not every time the washer is run.

If this is indeed the problem, which is the cheapest way to remedy it, replace the main PCB or send away for repair, whichever it is, would you lads be able to suggest where to source a replacement or where to send for repair.

Thank you and regards, The Soulman.

[Soulman]

Re: Hotpoint WF860

FURTHER UPDATE.

I tested the (Two week old) heating element for continuity and it failed.

After contacting the supplier of the aforementioned element a replacement was quickly dispatched.

I fitted it and after Two days of normal operation we’re back to the dreaded 0.01 minute never ending wash cycle.

Both the elements have not been genuine Hotpoint parts, they’re branded “Kineta” but are rated at 1800W as the original.

I find it difficult to believe that Two brand new elements even given that they are not OEM parts, would both fail, One after Two weeks and the other after Two days without there being something other going on that could possibly be causing them to fail.

At the same time I find it equally difficult to imagine what exactly could be going on that would cause both elements to fail so quickly.

Thats where you guys come in.

Could you guys tell me, have you experienced anything like this before and if so what was the problem,if not, could you suggest whatever it is that might be causing the problem.

Thank you and regards, The Soulman.

[Soulman]

Re: Hotpoint WF860

iadom wrote:Apart from physical damage from coins or the inner drum , water leaks or in rare instances the heater being switched on with no water in the drum there is very little else that can damage the heater. Any faults on the pcb are very unlikely to damage the heater.

Thank you for the reply, this is as I thought, but as I was always told, never assume and always ask the question, particularly when it is not your area of expertise.

Regards, The Soulman.

[Soulman]

Re: Hotpoint WF860

UPDATE.

Well after over Two weeks of normal operation the machine has returned to its 0.01 minute never ending wash cycle.

I’ve not had time to have a look at or check anything on it yet as its literally just started playing up in the last couple of hours and I’m not in the mood for buggering about with it on a Saturday evening.

Any pointers guys ?

I’ll obviously check the heater connections and continuity and also the temp sensor.

Should I find they’re all ok is it safe for me to assume that the dreaded relay / main controller is the problem ?

Could a failing relay / main controller cause a (New) heater element to fail.

Your help and advice is as always much appreciated.

Regards, The Soulman.

[Soulman]

Re: Hotpoint WF860

Update.

Problem turned out to be a failing heater element.

I did a resistance test with a multimeter and depending on if I applied pressure to the bracket where the electrical connectors are I would randomly get a reading then nothing / open circuit.

I replaced the heater element and the machine is now operating normally.

Thank you all for your help / suggestions.

Regards,Soulman.

[Soulman]

Re: Hotpoint WF860

I see.

Thank you.

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